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#1010 of 1543 90s celicas by nippononly

May 10, 2003 (11:11 am)

were "lo-po" by today's standards, and the reason they were never compared to the GSR and Eclipse Turbo was because one was rated at 60 hp higher, while the other had a 30 hp advantage.
 
The couple of years they made all-trac turbo celicas in the 90s, however, they did just fine for themselves in competition with these other brands.
 
Something that Honda has always known, and Toyota found out or remembered somehow when it reversed celica's course with the year 2000 redo, is that lighter is always better in a sport coupe.

#1011 of 1543 RESEARCH ON KELLY BLUE BOOK SHOWS by zombo

May 10, 2003 (6:43 pm)

That the value of a 99 celica GT loaded with all opps. in exc cond. goes for 13,770 dealer retail and 10,695 private party value which is a ways off the 25k price 4 years previous.Compared to a new RSX type S at 23,650 it was a poor value then and now.Good thing Toyota saw the light and made it lighter,faster,and much less costly.Otherwise it probably would've gone the way of the Supra.

#1012 of 1543 by tundradude

May 18, 2003 (4:02 pm)

Now that I own a 91 Celica GT, here is my comments. Its a slower car, especially after my last car, an 89 Corolla GT-S. However, it does get 30 mpg and it rides like a Camry. Its a wonderful highway car. It had 151,000 when I bought it last November. Now it has 162,000.
 
Lets look back in performance and the Celica. The first three generation Celicas all had moderate performance with so-so gas mileage. My first two cars were 78 and 79 models. They averaged 18 mpg with 10.4 0-60 times. The 86-89 generation not only put some performance in the car, but told many police stations around the country to get faster cars to catch them. My 89 Corolla was built in a similar nature. The same generation Celicas also got cool mileage. I have heard some of them breaking 40. The 90-99 Celicas went heavy, but kept a 4 cylinder for insurance reasons. You know that all Celicas and Camrys or Coronas in the past have been the same chassis and engines. The Camry just got the 6 cylinder and the Celica did not. Toyota did the turbo thing, but high prices kept it limited. Its nice to see the Celica become faster again, now that is built off the Corolla class. However, there are compromises. A new Celica is not going to ride like a 99. However, fuel economy is up and of course the same goes for power. The current Celica is now in its fourth year. What will Toyota do next? More torque? Keep it affordable?

#1013 of 1543 according to by nippononly

May 18, 2003 (9:47 pm)

Automobile mag for June, they will keep it basic in the next iteration, which will be here in 18 months. They are going to go "180 degrees" from the current look, which "has not been popular". I am surprised they think that: when the current gen came out it was a huge hit. Just like anything sporty and geared to a younger crowd, it aged quickly and now sales have slowed. But that does not make the design a disaster by any means. They sold way more of this one than the last. (50K+ per year when it was new).
 
Will remain a 4-cyl, 2-door car.
 
I personally had an '83 GTS for a long time, and it was plenty fast enough - it was so light. The mileage remark was right on, though. It got about 27 most of the time.

#1014 of 1543 by guitarzan

May 19, 2003 (10:09 am)

I have seen so many of the current Celicas around. Unfortunately, I see red ones all the time also (mine is red.) I'm a very critical person, and I think this car is super cool, one of the best designs around.
 
They're gonna blow it with a completely new design! There's no where to go but "down"!

#1015 of 1543 but by nippononly

May 19, 2003 (3:39 pm)

they have to change it sooner or later! And annual sales now are down to niche levels - they may drop under 10K per year this year. Toyota must be anxious to bring out a new one. I am glad they will not be dropping the model line, and will be keeping it true to its roots (a light 2-door, economical sport coupe)

#1016 of 1543 CURRENT CELICA LOOK IS VERY COOL by zombo

May 23, 2003 (9:08 pm)

But if Toyota is going to change it,let's hope it is in the area of increased interior room and performance to compete with the Acura RSX.The only area that I'm not too impressed with is the rear slablike valence panel design,but in pictures the Celica with no rear spoiler looks remarkedly more attractive.I've yet to see one with no rear spoiler in NJ.Studies show that over 60% of new car buyers are women,so let's hope that the bean counters don't have their way and 'Chick' up the Celica again.With the new Scion division going after the younger buyers this is a distinct possibility.

#1017 of 1543 re: zombo by gambit293

May 24, 2003 (8:36 am)

Personally I think the Celica GT-S already is very competitive with the RSX-S, at least in performance. They are close enough that any sort of contest would end up being a "driver's race."
 
Also, most people I know think the celica looks funny without a spoiler.
 
Finally, although I would love to see a higher performance version of the current celica, I doubt that will happen. I've heard that a new Supra is in the works; I don't think that Toyota would want the celica to intrude into the Supra's market.

#1018 of 1543 A HIGHER PERFORMANCE CELICA by zombo

May 24, 2003 (9:41 am)

would also be the one that I think would sell.Nothing too dramatic,maybe 160 hsp for the GT and 220 for the GTS with a 9k redline ala the Honda S2000.But nippononly is right,I did some quick web research and discovered that Celica sales have dropped about 30% each year since 2001,with Consumer Guide even saying the Celica might be dropped after 2004.Since the new design will supposedly be very different,I only hope they don't go heavier,slower,softer suspension,with a quieter engine to appeal to the Mitsubishi Eclipse buying crowd(mostly young girls).I laugh every time I read a review complaining about the Celica's noisy engine.It's a sports coupe, not a luxury suv,the growl of the engine is part of it's appeal!The last Supra was a near exotic,especially the price which was in the 40-50k range.So even if the new Supra retails for about 35k it would still be 10k away from the price of a fully loaded GTS.

#1019 of 1543 Sunroof vs. moonroof by yatittle

May 24, 2003 (9:59 am)

I see where a sunroof is listed as an option, but nowhere is a moonroof listed. Sunroof just tilts up whereas a moonroof slides all the way open, right??? Is a moonroof optional or can it be custom installed by dealer, and if so, at what price?? Babylon Honda custom installed a moonroof on the Accord LX. Any help would be sincerely appreciated.. Thank you

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