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Acura Integra, Coupe, Hatchback
#804 of 1037 the short version
Apr 14, 2006 (11:48 pm)
is NO, they DON'T make cars like your '90 any more! Emissions standards, platform sharing, and a million tiny tweaks in search of that extra quarter point of fuel economy have taken care of that. Acura as a brand has grown up a lot since 1990 too, so the cars they offer have changed in mission to be a bit more "sophisticated", which equates to less visceral drivng feel.
Drive by wire doesn't have to be a pain in the neck like that, it is just that some cars do that hanging-onto-the-revs thing to reduce NOx emissions, and I guess from your comments that Civic is one of them! I test drove a Cobalt that did it so much it was almost undriveable. Just FYI, the RSX does NOT do that.
And lest I unintentionally misguide you, I no longer have the RSX. I had it about two years, then got the "fever" as I unvariably do and sold it for something completely different. It never gave me any problems until the end, when the auto-up windows would intermittently jump back down as if they had hit an obstacle, which they had not. That started happening at about 20K miles. But the seatback did develop a kind of rocking motion at about 15K, which required replacement of the entire seat under warranty. I was most surprised. Oh yeah, and a couple of times the electronic HVAC control that directed the air up or out or down stopped changing air directions, but each time shutting off the car reset it and it worked fine afterwards.
Beyond that, it seems that the RSXs are about as solid as most Hondas tend to be, although all the Integras right up to '01 were exceptionally good. Obviously, if the rust gremlin has raised its ugly head at your house, then perhaps you shouldn't go back to relying on the '90 as your sole transport. However, as hot as the new Civics are, I would still think you'd likely take a bit of a bath trading in such a new car - the only exception to that rule in the first year seems to be the Mini Coopers. Well, unless your '06 Civic is an SI? But I think you probably would have mentioned that.
Integra vs RSX? I dunno, the Integras have the usual aging problems with electricals and water leaks from the rain. They won't be any worse than your own car, and don't usually happen until well after the 10-year or 100K-mile mark. I always check CVs on those cars, the boots tend to crack and eventually leak and ruin the joint. But that is a problem with a lot of FWD cars when they get old.
The RSXs are a bit too new still to tell what will be an endemic problem for the whole model run, but I imagine they won't stray far from the old Integras in the things that crop up.
Apr 16, 2006 (6:04 pm)
So, ill admit im new to this site but i figured id try it out since no one else i ask can seem to come up with an answer...
I have an 89' integra Ls ,Manual,186k on car,roughly 40k on rebuilt engine, 2 door...etc.. anyhow , i've replaced the engine,clutch, alternator,battery , and the throttle body .... but Im still having starting problems...if you let it sit for like an hour or more its fine, it just acts like it has a cold start... but if you take it to do errands and u turn it off and leave it off for like...say 15min .. it wont start back up, it just keeps on cranking...but wont actually catch.. I dont really wanna take it to a shop cuz i do all my work myself and im just hoping maybe someone on here might know what its problem is... I've sorta ruled out just about everything except the fuel pump/fuel injector/Fuel relay .... Plz any advice..suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Apr 16, 2006 (10:50 pm)
I think you hit it - a lot of the old Hondas had a heat soak problem with the fuel pump relay - replace it and you will probably solve the problem. And I REALLY you didn't replace all that stuff trying to cure an intermittent no-start problem.
#807 of 1037 Re: acuraxgirl [nippononly]
Apr 17, 2006 (5:33 pm)
I didnt replace all that stuff to cure that problem, the no starting problem is just the latest one. So replacing the pump should solve the no starting thing?... would it also fix the fact that if i turn off my car when i get gas and it floods itself and i cant get it started again for like half an hour? And would it fix the cold start that it has or is that related to a thermometer sensor thing?
Apr 17, 2006 (11:52 pm)
just the relay. The car is flooding itself when you turn it off? That would be a faulty injector most likely, which would be very surprising in this car. Could it be something else? How do you know it is flooded? Could it be part of the same problem, no gas to the plugs because of a bad fuel pump relay?
And what is the cold start problem? I am afraid I missed that one.
#809 of 1037 not sure what is...pump?relay?injector?
Apr 18, 2006 (4:05 pm)
Im not positive that its flooded but thats what im assuming because it runs fine but then if i turn off my car and get gas then try and start it when im done it wont start ...just keeps cranking but wont catch ... and the only thing i can do is sit and wait ...which usually takes about 10-15min ..enough time for everything to settle i guess. And the cold start problem , we've had it since we replaced the engine, we thought it was the temperature sensor thing but that seemed to be ok. It just pretty much takes awhile to actually start like if its really cold out , it doesnt seem to have such a problem when its warm outside or hot. We're not sure what the problem is but it all seems to be related to something in the whole fuel system (broad range i know)
.. btw, if it helps any... we know it has nothing to do with the battery,alternator or the throttle body cuz those have all been replaced.
#810 of 1037 thinking about an integra...
Apr 18, 2006 (4:25 pm)
I'm looking hard at an integra (possibly even a GS-R if i can get one without outrageous insurance costs). I have a couple questions:
-Does getting a hatchback instead of a coupe help with insurance costs?
-What is a good year to get a cheap, fast Integra (GS-R or otherwise) that will last a little while?
Apr 18, 2006 (10:12 pm)
I think you should pause and diagnose your symptoms - you have a cold start problem that isn't that different from your hot start problem. You have an engine that will crank but not start (or have a hard time starting) under several conditions - you need to find out what it's NOT getting, spark, fuel, or air. Those are the three ingredients. It will take a second person to crank it while you check under the hood to see which of the ingredients you don't have whenever problems are occurring. Bad electricals often contribute to poor cold starting.
thenut8522: there is no Integra ever made that helps with insurance costs! These are some of the most expensive cars to insure I have ever experienced.
Getting a GS-R (the model with the VTEC) will always cost a premium over the "regular" Integras. There aren't many cheap GS-Rs. Now if you can do without the VTEC, the LS's (or GS's if you really want the leather) can be had fairly cheaply now in the oldest of the last-gen Integras - MY '94-96.
Integras are all decently fast, and have an IMMENSE aftermarket to make them faster for not too much money if that is your thing.
#812 of 1037 Re: Starting problems .... [acuraxgirl9469]
Apr 23, 2006 (4:59 pm)
I have a 92 Integra (orig owner) and had a similar intermittent starting problem. It turned out to be a cold solder joint on the fuel relay - just had to apply more solder - has been fine for two years.
Found the fix on http://www.g2ic.com/
(BTW, I still haven't found a good replacement for this car so I'm driving it till it drops)
#813 of 1037 90 intergra electrical problems
May 01, 2006 (7:28 am)
we have no headlights blinkers or radio insides clock flashes on and off have no running lights but brake lights and backup lights work could somerone help