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Volkswagen Golf, Hatchback
#401 of 1529 Wait for Golf V, Ha Ha
Jul 12, 2001 (1:37 pm)
If the Mk 5 platform is sold in USA prior to 2005 I will eat my hat. The next generation platform has not even been introduced in Europe and it usually takes 2 to 3 years for product introduced by VW Germany to be offered by VWoA. You are lucky if the same product ever arrives in the US.
Where is 4Motion, where is Pump Deuse diesel, where is the Polo, where is Caddy, NOT in the US.
#402 of 1529 WAIT, WAIT, WAIT
Jul 12, 2001 (3:51 pm)
Is the Polo the Lupo? Where is the Lupo and the Audi A2 turbo diesel when you need them? 70-100mpg? Can't believe people wouldn't buy them here.
#403 of 1529 RE: Wait for Golf V, Ha Ha
Jul 12, 2001 (8:46 pm)
Of course the golf V hasen't been released in Europe yet, the last time i checked my calender it said 2001. The golf V isn't scheduled to be launched until 2003 with a US launch either 6 to 8 months later--not right at the beginning of 2003. The latest the Golf V would come to the US would be 2004, when the Jetta/Bore model will be redesigned for Europe. Yes I do know that forigen car makers tend to release new products in their home country well in advance to another country (even Ford released the Contour/Focus line in europe before the US). VW has been know to make wierd moves with the way it treats its products sometimes and this I am guessing this is one of those wierd moves.
As for 4motion, it is here, just not on the US golf, and probably never will be (unless people start destroying VW dealers chanting "4motion golf, 4motion golf") because it would probably drive up the price too much for their target market in the US. 4motion models aren't as prominent in the US because it would drive VW's car prices out of reach of their target market. (the US 4motion passat already cost more than a comparable fully loaded car without AWD) As for the other things you mentioned they aren't in the US because of US consumers, would you honestly buy and drive a VW Caddy? (and besides think of all the cheap golf/Caddy jokes people would make, people already make fun of the golf name enough) VW's reason for not bringing the Polo over in its exact form was probably because it would look too much like a cheap version of the Audi A4. Would you spend more money on a A4 if u could get similar looks with a few less features in a cheaper polo?
#404 of 1529 Golf V and other models...
Jul 12, 2001 (10:03 pm)
Prodigy64x, I would agree with you on the 4motion, however, I don't agree with your argument about the Caddy. I think they'd add a different look to the utility class. Maybe not as much "sport" but more "utility".
About the jokes... Do people make cheap jokes about those driving Beetles? No, because WV did a great job of reviving the good parts of the old Bug. And if market surveys would prove Caddy' name to be a big problem, they would simply choose a different name for the North American market. For example, the previous generation of Jetty has been sold as "Veto" in Europe and the current generation is known as "Boar" over there. I bet you not all people who drive 'Bora' are 'boring'.
And I can't see how you can compare Polo with Audio A4. Basic Polo is a 5-door hatch back. The Classic' version is more sedan like but is still not close to the A4. The last one is named 'Variant' and is wagon-like. I know it's a matter of opinion but Polo looks cannot match that of the A4. Just look at the pictures.
I would really like to see the Polo at this side of the Atlantic. I think it would help VW compete with Mazda Protege 5. Just a thought.
Now, I'm switching to wishful thinking when I say that I'd love to see the Audi A3 here. That's not going to happen as VW has the Golf filling the hatchback category and the A3 would be too pricey. It's a sweet car!
I have a few other things to get off my chest, but I'll put them in my next reply.
#405 of 1529 VW tire sizes
Jul 12, 2001 (10:08 pm)
I'm getting a 2000 VW GOlf 1.8T and I want 16" tires and want to know if anyone has 16s on their Gof and the tire size they have with them. I want to keep the diameter about the same as the stock wheels and tires.
#406 of 1529 Polo vs. Lupo and about Economy
Jul 12, 2001 (10:53 pm)
mpgman, Polo is not Lupo. While Polo is a small 5-door hatch, sedan, or wagon, Lupo is even smaller (at least it looks so). I'd compare the Lupo to the Rover Mini that will hit dealerships soon.
As far as MPG is concerned, I'm totally with you. Honda's marketing pushes the Insight as a marvel of technology because is takes 3.2l/100km on the highway and 3.9l/100km in the city (or 61mpg/68mpg). Meanwhile, for years, pretty much every automaker in Europe has had a model geared completely at economy. The small TDI in the Polo does 41mpg-city/65mpg-highway. It has adequate power and has no batteries so it gives you true engine behaviour. How about the looks? Polo looks great, but the Insight's looks makes you wanna keep it out-of-sight.
The problem here is the diesel. (here's comes my outpour of emotions...) People in North America have a misconception about diesel engines. Everyone tells me they are dirty. Well, Polo cannot match Insight's ULEV status. Yes, they're not as clean as gas engines, but they're not dirty. The new direct injection diesels are quite remarkable. They too have to meet emission standards as other engines out there. Great mileage, tons of torque, and they last. However, the law of supply and demand makes it so that diesel here is just as expensive as gasoline. That's not the case in Europe.
I'm not in a market for a TDI and I like sporty hatches with gas engines. However, my point is that there's more potential in diesel engines than we would like to admit.
#407 of 1529 tire size
Jul 12, 2001 (11:30 pm)
for the 16" wheels is 205/55/16.
#408 of 1529 RE: Golf V and other models...
Jul 12, 2001 (11:50 pm)
The Caddy would be a nice design change in the SUV market if VW decided to classify it as one if it ever brought it to the american market, but the design may be too much for people to handle in that very market.
As for the VW Bore, people that drive Bores aren't boring, they just look like boars. (see, cheap jokes
VW dosen't need to bring over the polo to the US to compete with the Protege 5, they have the jetta wagon to do that for them. I still believe the polo looks similar to a A4 though: http://tonyscrib.homestead.com/polovsa4.html
take a look at that page and you be the judge. The golf IV design is the foundation of VW group's smaller cars in all their brands (i.e. Audi A4, VW polo, VW Jetta/Bore, Skoda Fabia etc...) The A4 is closer in relation to the golf than the passat, the passat is closer in relation(loosely) to the A6. But anyways to end this reply on a lighter note here is a comment from a friend of mine after mentioning to her I liked the VW Golf IV, "You like the golf?!?! whenever I see one on the road it reminds me of a old Converse shoe" followed by a brief moment of laughter. I'm still wondering how she said it looks like a Converse shoe, that is even worse than a comparison between a A4 and a polo.
#410 of 1529 gas mileage "?"
Jul 16, 2001 (8:43 am)
I'm getting about 450 Kilometers to a tank with quite a bit of highway driving. Seems low to me.
My car is a 99 new golf GAS - 5 sad.
My tire pressure is good, oil changed regularly, and & I don't have a heavy foot - so what gives?
Any ideas or is everyone getting the same bad mileage as me?