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Volkswagen Golf, Hatchback
#1441 of 1529 All new 2012 Golf
Jun 27, 2011 (10:47 am)
Not sure if this has been posted already
According to what I understand of the article, should be built on an all-new platform which promises better rigidity, less weight, less wind resistance, more passenger and luggage accomodation.
The promised motor mix is very optimistic with all kinds of technologies from ICE to pure electric, going through different hybrid technologies and stages.
A diesel pushing up to 220 HP would be in the plans, while revised versions of DSG would be available. An automated gearbox would help entry level engines yield 10% more mileage.
as an appetizer, a Youtube link would provide some teaser information on the future design
in the upper right section, we see some kind of body beign worked on. This may be some alternative design from which the future 2012 model was chosen, or not.
#1442 of 1529 Fuel efficiency
Jul 19, 2011 (5:57 pm)
In Canada, the Ministry of Natural Resources provides data regarding fuel efficiency. The 2011 2.5L Golf Wagon equipped with the Tiptronic 6 speed transmission rating are as follows : City, 9.1L/ 100 km equivalent to 31MPG (Imperial) or 25.8 MPG (US) ; Highway, 6.5L/ 100km equivalent to 43.46 MPG (Imperial) or 36.2 MPG (US). Could anyone currently driving a 2010 or 2011 2.5L Golf Wagon corroborate these readings or indicate what they are getting using regular gas at the pump. My view is that this big engine should not be as efficient as indicated. Thanks !
#1443 of 1529 Re: Fuel efficiency [zenfm]
Jul 21, 2011 (8:59 am)
I have a 2011 Golf 2.5 2dr with 5 speed manual. I usually got 23-24 (mpg) city and up to 35.5 mpg on highway in US. Im a high rpm driver, and the mpg really impressed me. I'm thinking about pick another Golf up when 2012 is available.
#1444 of 1529 Re: Fuel efficiency [juiyuan]
Jul 21, 2011 (10:11 am)
That confirms the EPA findings. Fuel efficiency should be a little better with the 6 speed automatic trans. Thanks !
#1445 of 1529 Re: Fuel efficiency [zenfm]
Jul 21, 2011 (10:52 am)
"Fuel efficiency should be a little better with the 6 speed automatic trans."
Highly-HIGHLY unlikely. While there are many cars which sport slightly better EPA numbers for Automatic versions, in the real world I've yet to see any (as in not even a single one) anecdotal reports where the Automatic equipped cars are even able to match their Manual equipped siblings. My SWAG based upon literally hundreds of reports is that the Automatic will deliver two or even three fewer miles per gallon in all driving environments compared to a Manual version of the Golf.
Sep 10, 2011 (2:16 pm)
Can a VW guru summarize the primary differences between the Golf and GTI?
I had always thought of them as pretty distinct models-- the Golf as a stylish, affordable, semi-upscale 2 or 4 door hatch, and the GTI as a sportier, 2-door hatch. Now the GTI is available as a 4 door (when did that happen? ) and it almost seems to make sense to think of the GTI as higher trim levels of the Golf.
Are there more fundamental differences that I am missing? Are the suspensions radically different?
I'll be in the market for a 4-door hatchback, and hadn't even considered the GTI, not realizing it had a 4 door option.
#1447 of 1529 Re: Golf vs. GTI [gambit293]
Sep 10, 2011 (3:14 pm)
Since the inception of the GTI moniker it has always been an uprated Golf/Rabbit. Basically a GTI is a Rabbit in Wolf's clothing.
#1448 of 1529 Re: Golf vs. GTI [gambit293]
Sep 10, 2011 (4:49 pm)
The GTI is a type of Gulf. They are not separate models.
Virtually every vehicle manufacturer has a "souped up" version of one of its base models.... VW is no different.
VW used to offer the R32... (250HP!) which was the most powerful Gulf ever - far beyond what the GTI offered... but real performance costs $$ and not many young folks could afford it.
#1449 of 1529 Re: Golf vs. GTI [gambit293]
Sep 10, 2011 (5:02 pm)
To reply to your original question "Can a VW guru summarize the primary differences between the Golf and GTI? "
Basically, besides the obvious body differences, the GTI has stiffer suspension, and bigger brakes than the base gulf. Since the turbocharged engine and larger tires are available on the gulf - I do not consider them a big difference. (although the GTI engine has some 'tweaks')
#1450 of 1529 Re: Golf vs. GTI [bpeebles]
Sep 12, 2011 (7:29 am)
Thanks for the replies.
What's confusing about the Golf/GTI disctinction is the level of overlap and redundancy. A TDI Golf is nearly identically priced to a similarly optioned GTI. Both lines now top out at about $30,000. The only fundamental difference between the two lines is the availability of a couple of fairly cheap trims for the Golf.
Imagine if Honda offered two entirely separate, high-quantity lines of Civics with substantially overlapping pricing and entirely different trim lineups. It just seems to make the process all the more confusing (or maybe just for me).