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#1121 of 1529 Re: 2000 Golf [gittisquared] by wetwillie

Apr 17, 2005 (8:38 am)

Replying to: gittisquared (Apr 16, 2005 3:56 pm)
You need to take this to a VW specific service shop, preferably an independent that has the VAG software that can isolate the source of the CEL. It could be something simple that can be reset with the interogation tool or it could be more serious(read:expensive) such as an MAF sensor (mass airflow). Warranty for some parts with a high failure rate - such as window regulators and MAF's has been extended by VW - unfortunately extended to 70K in most cases. There are recalls out there for this model, a VW specific repair shop can indentify these.
 
Castrol makes a great synthetic oil for this engine, its 5-50w - perfect for a turbo. You MUST use synthetic oil with this engine! There is a VW oil spec for this engine you can use as a baseline.
 
Med. grade gas is best (90 octane) as any lower will cause the engine management computer to retard the timing (knock sensor) to prevent pinging. This, of course, decreases performance.
 
You're right - the car is a blast to drive!

#1122 of 1529 Re: 2000 Golf [wetwillie] by 600kgolfgt

Apr 17, 2005 (5:35 pm)

Replying to: wetwillie (Apr 17, 2005 8:38 am)
I use Castrol Syntec 5w-40 for my 2003 Wolfsburg and my wife's 2003 Jetta. Unfortunately, you have to either get it at the dealer, or special order the oil. There are other synthetics on the VW 502.00 spec that you can get at the local auto parts store - i.e. Valvoline's 5w-40 synthetic can be purchased at the Auto Zone.
 
Here's the VW 502.00 spec for the oil:
 
http://www.vw.com/SP/pdf/oilchart.pdf

#1123 of 1529 Re: 2000 Golf [600kgolfgt] by wetwillie

Apr 18, 2005 (7:46 am)

Replying to: 600kgolfgt (Apr 17, 2005 5:35 pm)
The Castrol Syntec 5w-50 I'm referring to is readily available. Checker, for example, has it on sale now for $3.99. This oil exceeds the VW 502.00 spec. The 50 weight extension on the high (viscosity) end offers even better protection for hot-running turbos.
This multi-weight (5w-50) was non-existant when the VW 502.00 spec was published.

#1124 of 1529 I'd Stick with 5-40 by micweb

Apr 18, 2005 (9:00 am)

It's a special oil designed specifically to VW standards. Here is what Castrol says on their website about it:
 
SAE 5W-40:
Engineered specifically to meet the Volkswagen engine warranty requirements, exceeding VW 502 00 and 505 00. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Porsche approved and also exceeds European ACEA: A3, B3, B4, MB 229.3, MB 229.1, BMW LL-98. Meets the engine protection requirements of Volvo, BMW, Mercedes Benz and ILSAC GF-3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils.
 
On the other hand, 5-50 does NOT satisfy these requirements:
 
SAE 5W-50:
Provides the widest range of protection available. SAE 5W-50 delivers exceptional cold temperature pumpability for rapid oil circulation at start-up and provides a thick oil film for ultimate wear protection. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SM, SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds European ACEA: A3, B3, B4, and meets the engine protection requirements of GM4718M ILSAC GF-4 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils.
 
There is no mention of VW. The second sentence is just tricky wording. While VW recommends SF oil, it has to also satisfy their spec.
 
5-40 Syntec is available at my VW dealer for $4.00 per quart.

#1125 of 1529 Re: is the price acceptable? [yyzhou] by jbj02vw

Apr 18, 2005 (9:21 am)

Replying to: yyzhou (Mar 26, 2005 7:39 pm)
I think that all VW products are rather high considering that they were made in mexico and brazil. But do not worry the quality is still quite high, actually a lot higher than an american car and a little better than japanese makes. As far as the cost of the 2005 being less than 2004 it is probably because VW will release their new golf soon and are trying to move the older models out of their showrooms. Also the cost greatly depends upon the features that are available for that particular car. The features by the way are numerous regardless of 2004, or 2005.

#1126 of 1529 VW can it last? by jbj02vw

Apr 18, 2005 (9:30 am)

I have a 1969 beetle and a newer golf. My golf seems like a nice car but some electrical issues have me thinking about the longevity of the golf. too many fancy gadgets? Every damn thing is electrical. I could not find a golf with manual window cranks. My wife bought a luxury Nissan Maxima and it had, key word, had electric windows elctric door locks electric....etc....etc...Eventually (2years) everything wore out and had to be replaced. the cost??? Too much had to get rid of the car. It was not holding up anymore anyway. Can someone please tell me if they have had troubles with their 2002 golfs? The old beetles seemed to outlast their owners. Why cant these new VW's deliver that kind of reliability? Or can they?

#1127 of 1529 Re: 2000 Golf [600kgolfgt] by micweb

Apr 18, 2005 (9:32 am)

Replying to: 600kgolfgt (Apr 16, 2005 6:04 pm)
You said, with respect to a 1.8T:
 
1) ALWAYS change your oil at or before every 5000 mile interval. Do not go over the 5000 mile interval, otherwise - do not pass GO, do not collect $200 (you know the old Monopoly board game).
 
I agree on the 5,000 mile strict intervals for the turbo 1.8 - this is true even though this model requires full synthetic oil (the 5-40). Extended oil changes are apparently not permitted due to the turbo. This is quite different from the philosophy of extended oil changes (using synthetic) on other European cars like BMW's, MINI's, Saabs, and Mercedes, and flies against the popular opinion of synthetic oil advocates. I guess life inside a 1.8t is hard....
 
My normally aspirated 2.0 Golf surprisingly also calls for VW spec 5-40 oil, which is de facto full synthetic. While it calls for 10,000 mile oil change intervals after the first oil change at 5,000 miles, this is also on the conservative side; but then again, the VW doesn't have an oil life calculator as on the other Euro cars.
 
You also said:
 
Before shutting down your engine after a high speed (or highway speed) drive, let the car idle for a couple of minutes to allow the oil temperature to stabilize and properly cool the critical turbocharger bearing (as it spins down as well).
 
I think if you have at least a block to get home from the freeway offramp, the issue takes care of itself.
 
I'd add that "cold rev'ing" (racing the engine when cold) is probably Not A Good Idea with this or any turbo....

#1128 of 1529 Re: I'd Stick with 5-40 [micweb] by wetwillie

Apr 18, 2005 (10:03 am)

Replying to: micweb (Apr 18, 2005 9:00 am)
Stick with it if it calms you, but 5W-50 is most definitely superior for turbocharged engines.
 
"On the other hand, 5-50 does NOT satisfy these requirements"
 
Not true, it in fact exceeds the requirements - the API SM rating supercedes previous ratings i.e., SL, SJ, SH, all the way to SF- VW requirements. It supercedes previous ratings precisely because it not only meets those requirements, but exceeds them. Whether VW is specifcally mentioned in their sales blurb is immaterial - the SM rating says it all. No problem using a lower rated 5w-40 oil on the 2.0, but for the turbo I would want to use the best oil you can get your hands on.

#1129 of 1529 Re: I'd Stick with 5-40 [wetwillie] by 600kgolfgt

Apr 18, 2005 (11:03 am)

Replying to: wetwillie (Apr 18, 2005 10:03 am)
Besides, if the car is still under warranty and there is an oil-related failure, the fact that 5w-50 was used gives VW the ammunition (and justification in their eyes) to deny the warranty claim. I prefer to err on the side of caution (or at least until the warranty expires).
 
 

#1130 of 1529 Re: I'd Stick with 5-40 [600kgolfgt] by wetwillie

Apr 18, 2005 (11:11 am)

Replying to: 600kgolfgt (Apr 18, 2005 11:03 am)
You're right, if it's under warranty I would stick to their list (at least until it's updated).

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