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#62 of 71 Bought the Beetle over the Civic by kjclow
Feb 21, 2001 (7:12 am)
I looked at the Beetle, Golf, Civic, and Cavalier last summer. All were comparable for price, within $3000 for similar equipment. The Cavalier and Civic were doggy with little road feel and not much curb appeal. The seats were not as firm or as adjustable. The decision came down to the Golf or the Beetle, equipment and engine. After driving both on the same day, we decided that the Golf had a slight edge on the creature comforts but it reminded my wife of our old Dodge Omni. Not a fair comparison, I know, but I have to live with the decision. Besides, the Beetle is new and cool looking. The other reason for buying was to have a car to send my sixth grader to college in. I have no doubts that the Beetle and the TDI will still be alive and well for the next 10 years until she graduates.We bought the TDI with the luxury package. Wanted leather but didn't want to wait for at least six weeks for a Cyber Green with Cream Leather. I could have gotten black leather, but in NC that would be like climbing into a hot oven in July. The TDI has plenty of pep. No, it won't beat you off the line, but I gave up on that kind of driving when I had to start paying my own insurance. What I care about is, will it get me out of trouble when necessary? The answer is yes. My wife's comment was that it hums at 90. Her ticket was for 82 and the Beetle was just floating. Am I looking forward to the high timing belt costs? No, but I have had many other vehicles that were more expensive to keep on the road.
Bottom line........ Buy what makes you happy and leave the rest of us alone.
#63 of 71 toriephipps by silvertdijetta
Mar 03, 2001 (1:28 am)
Where in the NW do you live? I can recommend Rey Reece Friday VW in Portland, OR. Ask for Steve Burke. He will set you up great! I paid $500 over invoice for my silver TDI Jetta. No haggling. We had the negotiations completed in 5 minutes. DO NOT GO TO DICK HANNAH VW IN VANCOUVER, WA. I love my '01 TDI Jetta!#64 of 71 2001 Honda Civic HX by webster7
Mar 07, 2001 (7:25 am)
MY new HX hasn't come in yet (May), but all the reports are that it's fast 0 - 60 8.3 sec and has won awards for the best value in the world. The CVT is improved with a reduction in friction. Especially nice is the radio/cassette.#65 of 71 webster7 by otis12
Mar 07, 2001 (6:41 pm)
May i ask what you paid vs. sticker, excluding your state sales tax? Did the dealer say if the HX is a low production model, as I see few of them at dealers here in NJ. Thanks.#67 of 71 2001 Beetle WaHoo!!! by beetle32737
Mar 16, 2001 (7:05 pm)
I took Delivery on a 2001 CyberGreen TDI in Dec. 2000 and I can't get enough of this little gem. Got the luxury package with black leatherette. My wife still complains about the smell of the leatherette, but she wasn't refused to drive it :-)I've read all the posting, both good and bad, and just wanted to add a little bit myself. I've owned bugs and microbuses on and off for 40 years. My best bug was a "71", and this new one just beats it all to pieces. As far as 40,000 miles for the timing belt replacement that has now been changed to be the same as the gas motor. My dealer says 60000 but we'll have to see about that. silage has been right between 45-52 ave., with the highest being 57.7 on a trip to N.Y.. This thing pulls like a little storm trooper, and is a highway cruisers delight, 90+ is a cakewalk. Trouble is that the local gendarmes frown on that kind of behavior, so I don't get to enjoy driving fast anymore. Too expensive. One of my few complaints is with the quality of dealer service. VW really needs to look at its' service organization. Unless the car is DOA the (mechanics??), technicians cannot fix anything that the diagnostic computer dosn't see as broken. My biggest complaint is the smoking when you first start it up in the morning. But, as someone said before, it keeps the bugs away. Fit and finnish where excellent. Dealer prep was great and it's a real pleasure to drive.#68 of 71 Timing Belt (to beetle32737) by moparbad
Mar 17, 2001 (11:14 pm)
Timing belt replacement is 40,000 miles for automatic and 60,000 miles for manual trans..If your timing belt breaks it will likely destroy the top end of the motor and require big $ for repair. If this happens and you did not have the belt replaced at the proper time then VWoA will not cover the repairs under the warranty.
Word is that it is much more difficult to change timing belt on NB and cost at dealer is around $400 to $650 according to NB owners compared to $250 to $350 for Golfs and Jettas.
What the heck is leatherette? Fancy vinyl?
#69 of 71 beetle32737 by kjclow
Mar 19, 2001 (1:45 pm)
Congrats on the new baby. Excellent choice of colors, I got my cyber green in June. The TDI runs like a champ. I've got 11,000 on it now. Try some Power Stroke from Walmat as a fuel additive. It helps with the smoke. Haven't seen any help with the milage. I get 45 in the city. Only had it on the open road once. I've got to get out more..............#70 of 71 air conditioning by ktrandc
Mar 29, 2001 (3:21 pm)
Hi,I know that AC is not a standard option on the HX, but I want to find out what the invoice is for the AC. Could anyone direct me to a site that will tell me what that is. BTW, can I negotiate on the price of the AC when I purchase the HX, or is it something that I have to pay full price on? Thanks
#71 of 71 Hi ktrandc- Civic hx price estimate. by pocahontas
Mar 31, 2001 (9:31 am)
In addition to the feedback here, you should check out Edmund.com's New Vehicle Appraiser, which will also give you a true market value estimate. Good luck and keep us posted.
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