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Volkswagen GTI, Coupe, Hatchback
Oct 18, 2002 (12:13 pm)
I had a 2000GTI VR6,and now I have a 2003 VR6. The latest version is much improved. The car rides firmer, is a bit stronger on power. (the 6 speed is ok; the gears need to be changed more often....I'm; not quite used to it yet....but I think I will appreciate it soon. The Monsoon radio was great in the 2000.....now its much better. The controls are easier to see and easier to use, The in dash CD works better with the trunk changer. The 2000 was not as good, and I always had the problem of the dash player not resuming play after the car was shut off, and back on. The in dash cd in the 2000,had to be replaced twice....and still didn;t work 100%...so I gave up....on that minor annoyance. The new one has better cup holders....really, the rear cup holders are gone.
The rear view dimming mirror is better, now having an on off switch, and seemingly does a better job of dimming he lights (Why VW does'nt have dimming on the side mirrors is beyond me. That's where all the glare comes in from!!
Yo! VW !! listen up...
Its like the old GTI was ok but now its got it'self really together, The new one is what the old one should have been. Also, the way too low hanging oil pan of the 2000 has been raised up.
Get the new one!
#715 of 1617 Don't listen to the Autoweek one...
Oct 18, 2002 (4:59 pm)
Right now there is no final word on the R32....
Currently being crash tested - supposedly ran into a few issues with the rear crumple zone and the haldex all wheel drive system.
MkV will be here as an 05 model.
#716 of 1617 ralphieboy
Oct 19, 2002 (5:10 am)
Thanks for your thoughts concerning the 2000 vs 03 VR6 GTIs. I would definitely like to test out the newer one.
What has your experience been with gas mileage? I'm more concerned about real world highway cruising mileage than I am about around town (which I know will probably be in the high teens, low 20s).
Oct 19, 2002 (6:39 pm)
Highway(on the 2000)VR6, I always got between 26 if I punched it,and 29 if I was super careful always reset the odometer when I gas up, and always (with a hand calculator) figure the mileage. The 2003 has only 600 miles on it,but on a run to Vermont last week, it got 28 on the highway. I think once its broken in, after the first 5,000 it should get better. The 6th speed seems to be ok for crusing. (To tell you the truth, I miss the 5 speed. I would like the bigger engine with a five speed.)Good luck!
#720 of 1617 gas mileage
Oct 20, 2002 (6:28 am)
Thanks for reply ralphieboy. That is certainly acceptable mileage, and about what I would expect. I have heard the 1.8ts get in the low 30s, but that is the trade off for the bigger engine. Our V6/5speed Passat has always gotten an honest 30mpg on the highway cruising fast (80-90) which I think is exceptional. Even so, 26-28 is not bad for a sporty car with a V6.
Why do you miss the 5 speed? Are the ratios in the 6 speed that much different?
#721 of 1617 gas mileage
Oct 20, 2002 (8:17 pm)
I get 35 on the hwy with my 02 1.8T. VR6 is nice too. Hard decision, but a few back to back test drives cleared things up for me. Oh, the $$$ difference was the clincher for me. I figured I could use the $$$ to use on upgrades for my 1.8T. If money weren't an issue, I probably would've went via VR6.
Oct 23, 2002 (11:45 am)
The engine power band is broken up into 5 parts rather than 6. Each part (for me) has more character. If they had left the 5 speeds with the same ratios, and added the 6th, like an overdrive that dropped the rpm's 1,000 or so, for highway economy. That would have been better. Ok.... the 6 speed feels like a better transmission, but its not the quality, thats being discussed. Rather, cutting a pie into 6 parts rather than 5. Also, a shift from 5th to 6th requires that one put a little....not much...but a little pressure to hold the shifter away from you otherwise the upshift, easily turn into a down shift, as the shifter has a tendency to drop into 4th
Would I take an old 5, over the new 6 ? No. The transmission feels much improved. I am very happy with the car, and I may get completely used to it.
#723 of 1617 6 vs 5
Oct 23, 2002 (5:32 pm)
I'm interested to drive the 6 speed to compare; although 5 speeds have always seemed like enough to me. I thought the 5 speed in the VR6 felt like a good transmission, so the 6 speed must be a significant improvement. The 2002 VR6 that I test drove is still available, and I'm considering making an offer on it if its not sold in a couple of weeks. It would be worth it to me if I could get it for a somewhat discounted price (meaning the dealer would have to give me a fair price on my trade, which they were not willing to do 2 weeks ago). If not, I'm not too concerned because I'll be in a better position to purchase in 6 or 8 months, and would like to seriously consider the 1.8t vs. the new 200hp VR6. Thanks for your thoughts ralphie and seguy.