Last post on Nov 01, 2012 at 8:02 PM
You are in the Volkswagen GTI
What is this discussion about?
Volkswagen GTI, Coupe, Hatchback
#560 of 1613 Probably referring to some ESP system
May 19, 2002 (12:30 am)
I don't know what VW calls it, but other mfgs call it Electronic Stability Program or something like this. It is a system that senses whether the car is starting to spin (by comparing the steering wheel postion and the rate the car is yawing) and attempts to modulate the throttle and brakes to get the car under control. It's another safety net system like ABS but one for losing directional control.
My understanding is that while the GTI has both ABS and traction control, it doesn't have this, but it is widely rumored to be added for the 2003 MY.
#561 of 1613 1.8T and ESP
May 19, 2002 (8:32 pm)
The 1.8T has three different versions:
2000 - "AWD" k03, 150hp
2001 - "AWW" k03 sport, stronger internals, 150hp
2002 - "AWP" k03 sport, diff. cams, diff. ecu, 180 hp
AFAIK, the GTi 337 and the Jetta GLI, and the Turbo S beetle both have ESP.
#562 of 1613 Stereo - Monsoon
May 19, 2002 (8:36 pm)
Go without the monsoon if you want to upgrade.
The K-wire needs to be cut if you have an aftermarket head unit.
The monsoon has an amp/crossover in the trunk of the cars. If you want to upgrade the speakers, you will need to remove the amp, all the wiring and start from scratch. It's easier if you just have the regular system if you want to upgrade.
BUT, what I did was keep all the monsoon stuff (as it is decent for mid/high) and I got an Eclipse head unit, Phoenix gold amp, and two 12" Eclipse subs and kep the monsoon stuff with crossovers to just handle mid/highs and got the subs to handle all the bass. The system sound amazing!
#563 of 1613 if you're following my whining...
May 21, 2002 (6:39 am)
I had the dealership check out my GTI (as per instruction by VWOA) and $35 later, they told me it was the MAF, just like I told them.
VWOA called me and said they couldn't help me. So I asked for my money back for the checkout they asked for. They said they couldn't help me.
My vernacular is limited in ways to accurately express my mood about this.
May 21, 2002 (9:05 am)
This is VW's biggest black eye - customer service after the sale. It is such a mixed bag, it totally depends on the dealer - some are merely good, some are horrible, I have yet to experience world class customer service from VW.
#565 of 1613 Looking for a decent commuter
May 22, 2002 (8:25 am)
Complete newbie as far as the GTI goes, but heard a lot of good things. I have a new M3 and I commute over 80 miles in my Passport SUV. You can see the problem, looking for something fun that is a tad more useful that a 13 MPG truck. Looking to get a new VR6, can someone just point out things I should be looking for. Is the VR6 worth the extra money? What options are overpriced, etc....
Also, best dealer in the Washington DC area?
Thanx, feel free to email me directly, saintcabbageyahoo.com
May 22, 2002 (8:39 am)
You already have a M3 (all your fun is here)....get a Golf TDI for the commute. Might be suprised about how it drives.
But if you still want a decently fast car, the 1.8T just as nice. The VR6 gives you some options you can't get on the 1.8T, such as automatic climate control, multi-function computer, etc. Add a chip to the 1.8T, easy 200 bhp at the crank.
May 22, 2002 (10:42 am)
I was a sucker who bought a vr6 mkIV when it first came out, so I got all those options (that I didn't want)
I personally hate leather in my cars, you slide on it too much. My jeans stick to cloth much better.
The climatronic is counter-useful and just generally evil. You can't MAKE it blow a certain temperature of air. in certain conditions it will either blow HOT HOT HOT or COLD COLD COLD and nothing in between. avoid this engineering disaster.
the heated seats are nice (might be leather only, I dunno) but probably not worth spending money on in my opinion.
I prefer the vr6 over a turbo, just because you get smooth accelaration from 1500rpm on up (vs the 1.8T) but if it's mostly highway, and you're just commuting, go with what's cheaper.
May 22, 2002 (10:45 am)
Anthony, I don't think the 337 gets ESP, but you're right, it is on the current Turbo S, GLI, and I think all the new 201-hp VR6 GTIs. Most upper end models get it in 2003 and it is an option on virtually everything else.
I hope I'm wrong about the 337 not having it (I have one coming), but the info I have is that the 337 is mechanically a vanilla GTI 1.8T except for the brakes, suspension/sway bars, wheels, exhaust aft of the cat, and six-speed.
May 23, 2002 (9:16 am)
I just ordered one $2225.00 +$149 fee + $ 24.00.
However,The type S RSX was the best thing to drive in the world. I goofed by taking my wife. When the salesperson told me to shift into second and take it up to 8000rpm's she screamed noway not this car. Man I was doing 68mph and 90 in 3rd before I knew it ,scared her to death.What a car I would get a ticket a day,but I loved it.
Well ,here I am with a GTI hope I like it.I'm 62 and next to sex The RSX Type S comes close.I've been smiling for two days.