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#50 of 174 318tiwheels&tires
Aug 19, 2001 (11:21 pm)
Found a super clean 1996 318ti with "M" package and only 36,000 miles on it. The only problem that I can see is that the wheels and tires may not be the right ones for this model with the "M" package. Title search shows that this was a one owner car prior to being traded in. Tire size on the car now is 185/65R15 on plain steel rims with a plastic BMW wheel cover or hubcap. Tires are new Michelin's. Dealer has about five other BMW's on his lot and a service area not open to the public. My big question is have the wheels been switched on this particular vehicle? My second question is can this car run on regular or does it require premium? This is my first BMW so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
#51 of 174 Something isn't right
Aug 20, 2001 (3:06 am)
If the car you are looking at really did come with the "M" kit, then it has lost its original wheels somewhere along the way. The original wheels were 16" alloys with five rounded face spokes. Are you sure someone didn't take a base car and just stick on a couple "M" kit parts, like the body pieces?
#52 of 174 ran the vin
Aug 20, 2001 (6:33 pm)
Called my local dealer and service dept. manager about the car in question. He ran the vin and it did come with the sport package. Seats are correct as is the front end and body side moulding. I also ran the vin and the title number as per carfax. Got the prior owners name and address. I'll give him a call and see if he traded the car in with the sport wheels that it came with. Does anyone know what tire size is correct from the factory with this package? Also, do foglights come with the package? If anyone can give me a list of all the items that come with the sport package I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
Aug 21, 2001 (7:03 am)
If it is a sport package, as opposed to the much rarer "Club Sport" edition, I can recall the following items:
* M Technic body kit (front valance, sideskirts, and rear diffuser)
* Leather/cloth sport seats
* Sport suspension
* 225/50-16 performance tires on 16x7 (maybe 7.5?) five-spoke alloys -- Style J wheels?
That's all I can recall. The Club Sport cars also had the sexy rear view mirrors from the M3. No changes to the engine, transmission or brakes that I remember. Foglights were part of the sport front valance. I believe SR, LSD or ASC+T, and maybe the onboard computer were optional.
#54 of 174 pa559
Aug 21, 2001 (7:19 am)
The Club Sport was only offered in 1995. 1996 and later Sports were essentially Club Sports without the M3 mirrors. Are the Michelins Artic Alpins? The PO may have traded the car with the snows.
#55 of 174 wrong wheels
Aug 22, 2001 (4:31 pm)
Thanks for the info. I ran a DOR check on the car and found that it was a corporate fleet car for a local BMW dealer. It probably was a car given to one of the principal's kids then went straight to the dealer I'm trying to deal with right now. The BMW dearer can't swap wheels on a car without a ton of paperwork and disclosure statement that would create a paper trail that would still be with the car at this point. I'm going back to the dealer tomorrow afternoon and see what kind of a deal we can make. I think he switched the wheels for a prior customer or another car on his lot. Everything else checks out for a proper sports package. I'll let know what happens next. Thanks for the sports package info.
#56 of 174 New 318ti?
Aug 26, 2001 (8:26 pm)
MB has just announced a new hatchback that looks like a steamlined 318ti. Has anyone heard anymore about a new 318ti or an updated model? Seems that MB moved into the slot that BMW had with the best looking hatchback on the market. I must admit the new MB looks really good.
Aug 27, 2001 (3:13 am)
The new BMW hatch is not destined for the U.S. - good thing, too, because it is an embarassingly ugly design. We will likely see the new Valvetronic engine technology, however.
#58 of 174 see posts 37 and 38
Aug 31, 2001 (6:53 pm)
I think BMW got gunshy about selling the hatch here, because it sold poorly (the old-style suspension and 1.8 engine didn't help, IMHO).
I still think they'll bring it here IF the new
M-B 230 hatch does really well. We'll see.
The problem with any lowest-rung model in a luxury marque is options and their prices. Sure, these cars start at $25k, which is what draws customers. By the time you option it the way even the most basic luxury car should be equipped (sunroof, leather, CD), you're at $30k, a price point at which other cars start to look a lot more tempting.
#59 of 174 Hello, anyone still here?
Oct 22, 2001 (9:14 pm)