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#70 of 1747 chevrolet/geo metro topic #121 by scoyle Sep 30, 1999 (7:49 pm)
Does anyone have advice as to whether to buy a 95 metro coupe hatchback, with 46k miles, a basic car with cassette and added sunroof, for $4400? My concern is the current owner has done the recommended oil changes but has NOT done any other recommended maintanance, eg changing transaxle fluid, cleaning the radiators, etc which the owners manual recommends. The mechanic at a local dealership over the phone said this was not a big deal, but I remain concerned. Also the current driver has been driving with two new front tires of a different brand than the backs. The other option is to spend roughly twice as much on a new Metro. Any advice? Thanks.
#71 of 1747 95 Metro by occupant1 Oct 01, 1999 (5:41 am)
Hmm...you're picky. I take care of my Metro, but the ATF fluid is not to be changed until 100K. I hit 101K this week and I'm doing it next week. I keep up on my oil changes every 5-6K because I drive 5-6K per month. What your problem is is that a 1995 Metro is not worth $4400. No matter the mileage. It is a 5-year old subcompact. I wouldn't pay more than $2500 for it. I paid $3000 for mine last year at 63K and here I am. The cars have zilch for resale. Buying a used one is a better value than a new one, unlike a Civic hatchback, whereas a new $14K Civic is much better than a used $10K Civic...but a used $3000 Metro is a better value than an $11000 new one. I would continue searching for a Metro for less money or a newer one. If it were a 1997 3-cylinder without air, $3800 would be a good deal. If it were a 1997 3-cylinder with air, $4400 would be fine, but $4400 for the 1995 is too much, unless the car is in showroom new condition (clean underneath and all). BE wary of the sunroof. The roof is one of the few things on this car that is sturdy and cutting a hole in it does not help. If you want to do without A/C, 2 windows is enough ventilation even at 25mph. The sunroof will leak on you and you won't like that at all.
#72 of 1747 metro clutch problems? by dave62 Oct 07, 1999 (1:59 am)
Has anyone else had problems with the Metro clutch? I'm taking my '97 in tomorrow for a sixth clutch in as many months. The first one was at 30K (3K after I bought the car). The dealer said it probably wasn't covered by the warranty, so I took it to a transmission shop. That one lasted 3k. I took it back to the transmission shop. They said the problem was the transmission oil seal, and they should have caught it the first time. The dealership agreed to do the transmission repair, but the transmission shop provided the replacement clutch disc. It only lasted another 3k miles. I took it to the dealer that time. He said it was probably just a bad remanufactured disc, and put a GM clutch assembly in. The clutch lasted two days. The dealer did all of the replacement work free of charge, and said the clutch disc had a broken spring. I picked the car up last night, and tonight the clutch is slipping worse than it did before. FYI, they replaced the whole clutch assembly yesterday, plus turned the flywheel because it was glazed and had some hot-spotting. It'll be back in the shop in the morning, and I'm sure the dealership will take care of everything free of charge, but I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever be able to drive the car any further than between my house and the dealership. FYI, I've had manual transmission vehicles for 30 years, and have never had any problems, so I don't think it is my driving. Also, lest I catch grief from Metro loyalists (and I'd like to be one), the dealership service manager says that his experience has been that the Metros are pretty reliable - he almost never has one come in for repairs, and there are plenty of them around here.
#73 of 1747 metro clutch followup by dave62 Oct 08, 1999 (1:34 am)
Talked to the dealer about the clutch problems this evening. The service manager said the problem turned out to be that the clutch cable was stretched. They replaced it, and will be replacing the clutch assembly free of charge (again). Hopefully that will take care of the problem! I'm just glad that the dealership service department was responsible enough to keep after the problem until they (hopefully) got it resolved. Makes you appreciate having a reputable outfit to deal with!
#74 of 1747 Re: occupant1 by alext Oct 08, 1999 (1:28 pm)
What model are you talking about when you say that the deepest discount on a new (99) Metro is $11,000? I've never seen one that expensive! My girlfriend got her 99 Metro (a 2-door hatchback, Non-Lsi) for $8439. And I've even seen them as low as $7700 for the same model. If you're talking about the 4-door sedan with automatic and maybe some other options, well then you're right, they are a waste of money. But the base model is by far the least expensive new car you'll find anywhere. The hatchback looks so much better than the oddball sedan anyway.
#75 of 1747 re: alext by occupant1 Oct 08, 1999 (4:00 pm)
Sorry. I meant to put 10,100. The MSRP of the car I wanted was $11,372 (base HB, AC, tach, package 1, cassette). $1250 rebate, $600 off, plus 6.25% tax, was about 10,100. Also looked at a new Accent yesterday. 1999 model, 5-speed, no AC, with cassette, defroster, remote mirrors, and delay wipers standard. They offered the car for $8244. AC added now or later would be $1000, tax included, and they were willing to sign to that. The Metro equipped the same way, without AC, but with the same equipment the Accent had, would cost $8800-$9000. Hmm...I might defect, but I would buy a used one first anyway. I see no reason to spend $9000 on a new car when I can get the same car three or four years old for $2500-$3500.
#76 of 1747 alext by bozof Oct 09, 1999 (5:44 pm)
i am planning on purchasing a 99 LSI coupe metro. i was quoted $11.5k driveout. it comes equiped with auto, air, ps, pb, rear windshield wiper, intermittent wipers, am/fm stereo cassette. am i paying too much? how much discount should i ask for off the msrp. i too would be getting the $1250 rebate.
#77 of 1747 LSI Metro Coupe Purchase - please help by bozof Oct 09, 1999 (5:52 pm)
Can anyone tell me what they paid for an LSI Coupe with automatic transmission, air, etc. (see posting #77)? I was wondering how much off of the MSRP (percentage wise) I can asked for (or expect). The dealer told me there is very little [profit] built-in to the Metro. Is this true or is this sales talk?
#78 of 1747 little profit by occupant1 Oct 11, 1999 (1:54 pm)
The Metro base coupe has only $522 of profit built in, plus the rebate, which was actually $1250 last I checked. The LSi model has $666 of profit, but each one of those options adds a tiny piece of profit. Personal question...why would you buy a new Metro with automatic transmission? They still get 30-34mpg but why not go with the stick? And remember every rental outlet in the country has Metros with automatics. You can add a warranty to a used Metro. Penn warranties can cover you through 125,000 miles if you buy them by 95,000 miles. And that 30K of coverage costs you $360. They really do a nice job. So you could buy, say, a 1998 Chevy Metro LSi hatchback for about $7000, add a 45K warranty for $540, and be done with it. That way you save $5000 over new, and get better warranty coverage. The only thing you can't get with a 1998 that you get with a 1999 is the color silver. Seriously. And no one knows the better! But as to the invoice versus retail thing...retail on a Metro LSi coupe, AT AC, defogger, wiper, mats, and cassette, is $12,425. Invoice is $11,510. The automatic transmission option is $595 retail, $530 invoice. If he is offering you the car for $11,500 out the door inlcuding tax and title and everything, then he still has $300-$400 to work with. Figure $10,260 is his cost after the rebate, add $200 profit and then add tax and title and you are at a fair price. The 1999 Metros are too plentiful and he doesn't want it on his lot any longer. If you want other colors, ask him to do a dealer search in three to five adjacent states to you. If you want a silver base coupe, 5-speed, with air, cassette, defogger, and tach, Blossom Chevrolet in Indianapolis has five. The list on that car is $11,372 and the sale price is $9623, after rebate and $499 discount. Or check the classifieds. A 1998 Metro sells for around $6000-$8000 depending on model. You could save yourself a big chunk of change finding a low mileage '98 or older. My 1995 Metro has 102K, drives fine, has auto and air (it was cheap so I didn't bother searching for a stick), and I only need $2500 to pay it off. It needs nothing. You want it?
#79 of 1747 oh yeah by occupant1 Oct 11, 1999 (1:56 pm)
what screwball dealer is telling you that you are getting power steering? You can only order power steering on the sedan.

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