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#211 of 1867 Metro replacement
Apr 29, 2000 (11:04 pm)
Go to uk.cars.yahoo.com and look at Vauxhall Corsas. That's what another Edmund's user told us is the replacement for the Metro. Here is a link to another UK cars site for a picture of the 1.0 liter 2-door hatchback model:
It looks like a Metro, kind of. It gets good mileage:
49mpg combined in the 1.0/5-speed
45mpg combined in the 1.2/5-speed
37mpg combined in the 1.2/auto
37mpg combined in the 1.4/5-speed
35mpg combined in the 1.4/auto
37mpg combined in the 1.4/5-speed Sport model
Now remember earlier in this topic all the talk about the Suzuki Baleno? Well, you can search for that car in Yahoo! Autos UK as well. IT is sold in sedan and wagons forms only in the US, but I am willing to bet that the Swift will be dropped at the same time as the Metro (after 2001) and the Esteem will gain a hatchback model with a 1.3 engine. But the hatchback Esteem will probably not be a product sold by Chevy because the Suzuki Esteem is a direct rival to the Cavalier in the cheap subcompact market. It sort of makes me wonder why Chevy has Cavaliers and Prizms. Prizms are more expensive, smaller, but are better cars. I guess Chevy has to have the best of both worlds. Good cars and junk.
Anyway, there are some incredibly nice cars available in the UK for cheap. 1.6 liter 4-cylinder BMW 3-series hatchbacks for about 15K pounds, Corolla 2-door and 4-door hatchbacks, Honda Civic and Accord 4-door hatchbacks, and more Daewoo and Kia models. The Kia Sephia is called the Mentor, and there are even Daihatsus available. I am having fun dreaming of the nice little cars we could have here if only they would import them!
#212 of 1867 don't purchase a metro...please
Apr 30, 2000 (5:26 am)
yikes, my sister drove one as a rental while her car was in the shop. yowsah! she told me about the experience and all i could do was laugh. beside the fact that i'm not a big gm fan, i'm not particularly fond of any car that comes with a 3 cylinder engine and wears the chevy bow tie. i always thought the bow tie was synonymous with american guts and glory. i know metro owners brag about the fact that they get such good gas mileage. the buck stops there though. the honda civic hb offers a lot more hp and torque than the metro with almost comparible gas mileage. a big plus is the fact that any honda will outlast any gm. do your homework, there's always a better deal out there metro fans. don't be deceived.
#213 of 1867 superben
Apr 30, 2000 (3:11 pm)
I must disagree with your assessment of Metro's/Swifts. I have had a number of Metro's and all have been very reliable cars. The problem has been since these cars are not very expensive, a lot of times they are not maintained properly by their owners. Properly maintained a Metro/Swift can deliver 150,000+ miles of trouble free driving.
Apr 30, 2000 (10:51 pm)
There are many Metros out there with over 200K let alone 150K. I have seen 300K-plus on some that were used as - get this - cars for positioning aerial photographs. The plane would follow the car to the place and the car would stop, then the plane comes back, centers the Geo Metro, and takes the shot.
If a new Chevy Metro with air and a radio and a 3-cylinder engine and the 5-speed stick costs me $8981 after rebate and discount, and a new Civic DX hatchback with air, a radio, and a 5-speed stick costs me $13795 because there is no rebate and there are no discounts, then where is the value? I see more broken Civics at dealers and repair shops than I see Metros. They may be more reliable, but with cracking heads, burning valves, and snapping timing belts, I wouldn't be able to tell. After five years my Metro may only be worth $2500, but I only lost $6500 on depreciation. After five years, your Civic is worth about $5000 and you just lost $8800. And I spent less on gas, less on insurance (remember the Civic is stolen a lot just like the Accord...premiums are higher), and less on maintenance because I didn't have to adjust my valves every 15K, I didn't have to replace my timing belt until 100K, and my oil changes can be done by myself in twenty minutes or less. Heck, I can replace my engine in an afternoon for about $500. What's that? You need the dealer to do it and it'll be $3400? Oh, so sorry.
Anyway, there are better cars than the Metro. The 4-cylinder Metro, for example (what I drive). It has more pickup, it can carry more weight, it is rated by U-Haul to tow a 1500 pound trailer whereas the Civic can only tow 1000. The Metro is rated in quality above Escort, Tracer, Neon, Cavalier, Sunfire, Mirage, Colt, Summit, and even the Nissan Sentra. It has four-star protection for driver and pasenger, and without A/C, it is the cheapest car you can buy today not including rebates.
I could go on...
Considering you like to bash Metros and think the Civic is god's gift to the American hatchback market, what do YOU drive?
#215 of 1867 Occupant...
May 01, 2000 (12:29 am)
OMG!! He drives a Sunfire!!! What a joke! I had a 1996 Cavalier bought with 31,051 on it. Because of that, I will probably NEVER buy another American car. It was in the shop every week (ask my boss at work) for things like struts, rear brakes (3 times!!!), P/S pump, and squeaking interior parts. Finally dumped it at 40,316 miles (and lost $3000!) for a Protege. Metro is not an American car though (just like Prizm isn't-- built all by Toyota), so that American thing doesn't apply. Also, Consumer Reports recommends the Metro as far as reliability. They say to AVOID the Cavalier from 1992-99 and the Sunfire from 1995-99. Compare that.
#216 of 1867 Park-Lock 97 Metro prob
May 09, 2000 (7:06 am)
I have a 97 Metro LSI (4 cyl) automatic
with 55k miles.
It locks in Park (sometimes) when starting
the engine. Pressing on the brake causes
the engint to die.
I can get it into Neutral by going in
through the console and pressing the release
lever that is there. Then it will finally
go into drive and roll.
But . . . for the first mile or so, it
will die as I hit the brakes at red lights
or stop signs.
The Gas guage also drops to the "E" as all
this is going on.
Finally after a mile or two of driving
it will get ok . . . the gas guage will
come back up and everything may be fine for
several days, until the next episode.
I can't get it to misperform for a mechanic.
It's an 'occasional' kind of problem and the
mechanics won't do a thing unless they can
see the problem in action.
Someone please help, if you've experienced this
and solved it.
Email me direct if you wish. <drums01att.net>
May 09, 2000 (3:39 pm)
That is an interesting problem. If the car dies and the fuel gauge drops to "E" when you hit the brakes, I'd look at a possible electrical short (?). When this happens, if your headlights are on, do they dim? Maybe a wire is grounding out against your brake pedal(?). I would really check into this as this might pose a possible electrical fire down the road.
Maybe your idle speed is too low(?) when it stalls.
On the transmission problem,....
Do you park on a hill? If so, try engaging your parking brake first(making sure your vehicle doesn't roll), then shift into park. This will prevent your vehicle from putting a strain against the parking paw and you will be able to shift.
#218 of 1867 Remote Hatch Release for Late Model Metro's ('95-'00)
May 09, 2000 (4:11 pm)
For all that are interested.....
I've recently purchased a new 2000 Metro and found it did not have a remote rear hatch release.
GM does make one. You can get the cable/release lever and striker plate through your Chevrolet dealer. One thing I have found: The late model Metro's (I believe it started with either the 1997 or 1998 model year), had a "double" latch safety mechanism on the rear hatch. Kind of like your hood release (front). This can cause problems if you opt for the remote rear hatch release as you'll use the release, walk over to the hatch, only to find it still locked.
To get around this, if you have the '98 or later model, order a 1995 rear latch as it didn't have this double latch feature.
This can be "$$" by the time you're done. But if you're going to keep your Metro for a few years, it is nice to have.
May 10, 2000 (12:19 am)
thanks...I have a 1995 LSi and I have the remote release and like it. It also keeps me from breaking the key off in the trunk lock. I hear these keys may seem big and strong but can break because the locks get so tight. Another way would be to exchange your whole hatchback and latch with a 1995 model, there are plenty in yards because every Metro I ever see in a yard is hit up front and the back is pristine. Then order the cable from Chevy and it should cost you under $200 total. If you buy all the parts from Chevy expect to spend $400.
#220 of 1867 Alan (Hatch Release)
May 10, 2000 (2:49 am)
I didn't know it would co$t that much! I took the cable release from my old '91 Metro and transferred it to my 2000 Metro LSi. Of course, that was before I traded in my '91 (he,he).
So the only thing I had to pay for was the striker plate and the rear latch ('95-97 model).
I saw the new Vauxhall Corsa. Nice car!
If GM does plan on using it over here, I'll miss the Metro but will look forward to it's replacement.
I do have one small problem with my new 2000 Metro LSi. I like to fill the gas tank tippy-top full.
This helps me determine the correct gas mileage.
This new Metro, however, fills to the top, then slowly goes back down. By keeping the nozzle at a trickle, I can continue to fill it for about 2 more gallons of gas before it finally fills to the top without going back down. I've put over 11.5 gallons of gas in it during one fill (and the needle wasn't all the way empty).
I believe the gas is filling into the expansion section of the gas tank (normally reserved for air when the gas needs to expand on those hot days).
That would explain why it takes more gas than the specs. suggest (10.6 gals).
If I fill it up all the way tippy-top,... it can take more than 15 minutes (it sure bugs people too!). The plus side is you can drive almost 100 miles before the needle moves off of "F"!
Anyone else have that problem?