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#196 of 1867 Re: 99 Metro lemon
Apr 13, 2000 (1:19 am)
Did you buy your car new or used? If you bought it new that way and have never been in an accident, then I would say you have a lemon. If you bought it as a dealer demo or as a used car with low mileage, then I would say it had been wrecked and poorly repaired (or it's a bought-back lemon). The window sealant and the tire wear and the pulling would confirm that. If you did buy it used or as a dealer demo, the speedometer thing might confirm a rollback. A demo with 400 miles is worth more than a used car with 4,000 or 14,000.
My 1995 Metro has 112K now and it's speedometer does something different...it is sticky...you accelerate and it the needle takes a second to catch up. The tire wear problem means you need an alignment...another clue the car may have been wrecked at some point.
I have seen 1998-1999, even some 2000 Metros at insurance salvage yards, totaled out, and it is quite possible if you bought your Metro used or as a demo, that it was a total loss at one point. One more reason to run a Carfax on your car before you buy it (unless you buy it for less than $1500 or so).
My 1995 Metro was never a total loss but it had been wrecked before and is currently damaged now, and I will be installing my own headlights and hood. There is no frame damage so I'll do the parts changing myself.
If your 99 Metro has over 60K, you may need new rear struts. Otherwise the noise may be related to the brake shoes, which are made of sandpaper. The brake hardware is comprised of folded tissue paper, therefore it may have failed by now. And I have installed all new Bendix parts back there to make those rear brakes semi-effective. I recommend same. You can get them at Western Auto and Parts America store. Seriously, the standard OEM brakes are of poor quality.
The key thing is normal for Suzuki products. A little lock lubricant (WD-40, graphite, whatever) will help a little, but having new keys made from the locks, not from the keys themselves, may help. Should cost about $45-$60 for a locksmith to make you a fresh key.
Lemon laws are different in every state, so check with your local library to see what you can do. Also look on the net, since you're here. If you have had the same problem repaired several times, or you have a safety issue (the pulling and the tire wear could count if they could cause an accident), you can go that route. Try another Chevy dealer, don't tell them you have been elsewhere, just tell them what problems you are having and see what they can do. Drive 100-200 miles if you have to. Also you might wish to have an independent mechanic try to work on it, it will cost you money, but it might fix your troubles.
I'll trade you my 1995 Metro LSi hatchback, air and automatic, red on gray, with 112K, and it'll be fixed soon. I'll trade you for yours, put in a little cash (not too much, remember I'm buying a lemon!) and you'll have a good Metro.
Good luck and come back for more help if you need it!
'95 Metro LSi hatchback
'92 Dynasty LE sedan
'89 Tercel coupe ($300 car)
Apr 13, 2000 (9:01 pm)
Anyone looking for a Great tow car, "Toad" ( Car to tow with RV. The GEO (stick Shift) Makes a good one. Tow Four down. , Real light, took 1/2 MPG off my mileage on the RV with a ford 460.
Ours is a 92 Metro 4 door.
Apr 16, 2000 (4:30 pm)
My wife has had her '99 Metro base model coupe for over a year now and she's had one of your problems------->
#3 - The noises coming from the rear wheels began to occur around 7-8 months after pruchase. It was determined by the dealer mechanics to be the rear struts, which were not neccessarily faulty but wore down with wear. They were covered under warranty but the parts took over a week to come in. Eventually they were replaced without issue and we were happy.
One would think that the rear struts of any car should not be worn down to failure after only 7-8 months of normal daily driving. However, this is not a condition of being a lemon, but the combination of 1) cheap parts being used in the ultra-economy metro and 2) the ridiculous road conditions in L.A.
As for the rest of your problems some seem related to your car needing an alingment (the tire wear and the pulling to one side) while the rest seem unique. Still, seeping sealant and fuzzy needles, while nuisances, aren't threatening the life of your car.
You have to take a broad general view of the Metro. It's probably the least expensive vehicle sold in the U.S., next to the Daewoo Lanos and the Hyundai Accent. It's a very dependable car that has been built by Suzuki and sold by GM alllll the way back to the time when Chevy packaged it as the "Sprint" in the early 80's. The tiny 1 liter 3 and 1.3 liter four cylinder engines can live increadibly long lives on low amounts of gasoline and maintenance. And above all else you have to remember in this industry, you get what you pay for.
Apr 17, 2000 (3:54 am)
I had a brand new 1991 Metro and had tire noise after a few months. The noise sounded like I had truck tires that would have a distinct "moan" when moving at highway speeds. When I examined the rear tires, I saw that they were wearing funny. The treads "feathered" and did not follow the smooth circumference of the tire.
I later found out it was because the factory Goodyear Invicta's were horrible! The mechanic blamed it on the back end being so light.
I switched over to Michelins. On the 1994 and earlier models (12" tires), go to Sears and ask for "Sears Michelins" because Michelin dealers don't carry 12" tires. Man, that stopped that problem but quick. I had over 125,000 miles on Michelins and they haven't given me a bit of problem. Now I just bought a 2000 Metro LSi Hatchback and gave it a set of Michelin Symmetry tires. Runs great!
#200 of 1867 Michelin Symmetry
Apr 17, 2000 (8:44 pm)
Those tires are available even at Wal-Mart and they are excellent tires, also very cheap. Wal-Mart mounts and balances and gives you a road hazard warranty for $9.76 per tire. The Symmetrys in 155/80R13 size are about $30 each plus mounting, so for under $200 you get four new 80,000 mile tires. Then you can take it somewhere to have it aligned.
Wal-Mart also sells Goodyear Viva radials and those are decent tires...the 155/80R13 size is $24 per tire plus mounting, so you can have a set of new tires for about $150.
#201 of 1867 Not bad for the money!
Apr 18, 2000 (1:37 pm)
I bought a new '93 Metro Hatchback 5sp stick. Not that it was my first choice of a new vehicle. I didn't even know about Metros before that day. Wandering around the dealers lot looking for an inexpensive vehicle with great gas mileage, I saw the car sitting all by itself and asked the salesman what it was. He ignored my question and promptly started showing me a Hyundai Excel. After balking at the Excel I again asked him about the car standing all by it's lonesome. He finally agreed to show me. As I walked up to the window sticker and noticed the 50mpg est. hwy mileage and the 6k price, I said I'll take it now. What could I lose. That afternoon I drove away in it. Well, after 7 years and 200k miles, I feel I have gotten my money's worth of this little 3cyl. The car provided me with very good mileage as advertised and very low maintenance until now. Though horsepower and road respect was needless to say very much lacking, I managed to overlook the inconvenience of having to yield to even bicyclists passing me on the right (not that bad!) and trucks blowing be aside. Shifting from first to second never got me out of the intersection but what could someone expect from a motor of this size. The poor over overworked engine is now begging me to put it out of it's misery. The mileage is cut in half and it sounds like my lawn mower. I have nothing but good words for a car that has been good to me. I'm going to miss the little roller skate and hope that my next vehicle, whatever it may be, provides me with the same reliability as this one did.
#202 of 1867 Michelin Symmetry
Apr 20, 2000 (6:35 am)
On those Michelin Symmetry tires, Michelin only made one size for the 13" wheel: P175/70R13.
You might be thinking of the Michelin XH4 or the XW4, or the RainForce MX4. Michelin did make a 155/80R13 for them, but not the Symmetry.
I've had a set of 4 on my 2000 Metro LSi Hatchback and they are fantastic!
Apr 22, 2000 (1:53 am)
It must have been that, but during the winter the local Wal-Mart had a special on the Michelins, and they listed a 155/80R13 Symmetry for $19.99. It is possible they made them before and Wal-Mart is now using up the backstock...
Of course my Metro has 175/70R13 tires on it, cheap ones but I can't afford good ones yet...
Apr 24, 2000 (11:10 pm)
sweet car...that's the way to do it if you can afford it...
steve109, the 155/80R13 tires and the 175/70R13 tires are plenty interchangeable, I have 175/70R13 tires on my 1995 Metro, same car as yours. The only things you will notice are increased tire noise (unless you buy quality tires) and better grip. The speedometer is virtually unaffected by this change.
all, I just purchased a brand new 2000 Swift GA, 5-speed, with dealer A/C, in brilliant blue. I am attacking it with stickers and window tint and various other things and I will post pictures in a couple of weeks. I paid $7949 for the car itself, plus $1300 for A/C, plus tax and title. The Suzuki dealers have $1300 incentives on these cars, and he knocked half off of his $500 markup. I financed through Primus and got a ridiculous 17.9% rate, but with my credit I consider myself lucky I got approved at all. $1000 down and 17.9% interest on 42 months gives me a payment of about $360. That means the car costs me $16000 over 3.5 years. But I hope it will be worth it. My Metro I did not trade in, they only offered me $500 and it is worth so much more to me, this red '95 will become an autocross machine and I plan to lose a lot, but I also plan on embarassing as many people with it as I can.