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Volkswagen Golf, Honda Civic, Hatchback
Apr 09, 2000 (3:04 pm)
On the subject of VW vs Honda vs Ford vs GM, when shopping for almost any brand hatch late last year I visited VW dealerships to see and feel a Golf, there were never any on the lot, Focus sedans were in stock but no hatchbacks, lots of Toyota Celica liftbacks for $ 20 + and several Civic hatchbacks in stock ..
oh yea, SUV = Silly Ungainly Vehicle
Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx
1981 Raleigh for commuting, errands & fun ____ __o
1997 Trek 2300 for real fun ! ____ _ \ | _)
2000 Civic (dx 5 speed) hatchback (_)/ (_)
#284 of 667 Help pls: quack56k
Apr 12, 2000 (9:49 pm)
I need some advice on whether to go for the VW or stay with the Honda. I own a 97 Civic LX Sedan (well, I always hit my head when retrieving stuff from a coupe, so..), and am contemplating of trading it in for either the Accord SE (5 sp), or the VW Golf 1.8 T (I heard the Jetta has loads of problems, and it is more expensive). I have test driven the Accord and find it smooth, though lack a bit of sporty feel. I have not had the chance to test drive the Y2K Golf, but I have driven the 97, and that felt great, safe, sturdy, especially in the snow (which is lacking from the Honda). The reason for changing car is that I find my Civic slow, especially when you have the air-con on, and merging onto the highway is not much fun. OK, if my criteria is a more powerful vehicle with a good manual box, high resale value, and low maintenance, which one, (in your opinion) should I be looking at (you won't be held responsible). Plus, I'd probably need a bit of financing, and the VW's rate sucks (bank rate), should I just forget about the Golf altogether?
I love my Civic, but from the 6th month of ownership on I found myself in need of more horsepower, and I think the Golf would be a nice advancement?!
When is a good time to buy VW?? I don't seem to recall any "trend" in their promotion like the Honda does. (I live in Canada)
Anyone out there can help me out?
Apr 13, 2000 (12:10 am)
Thanks for the new spin on the "SUV" acronym. If you can think of a synonym for "boring" that also starts with the letters, s,u or v, let us know!
Concerning hatchbacks, anyone who's unsure about their choices in the $12-13K range ought be looking at the Ford Focus ZX3 hatchback. Don't take my word, though: check out the ZX3 postings -- the people there are absolute fanatics about it!
#286 of 667 carlady
Apr 13, 2000 (2:01 am)
mnn, I've had two VW Golfs, my current 1996 and a 1987 before it. If you're looking for power, I think the Golf GTI is the way to go. IMHO, the Golf gives a more solid ride. I drove the Civic hatchback in 1996 and stayed with the Golf. Why not test drive them both and see what works for you?
Apr 13, 2000 (9:54 pm)
Well if it don't mind a coupe or hatchback the Integra GSR has one of the best manual gearboxes and shifters in the world and should be a bit faster than the Golf 1.8T since it's about 300lbs lighter and has 170hp. although I think the Golf Turbo is also a good choice - don't get the diesel turbo though, it's not fast. The Golf 1.8T should have pretty good power (150hp but lots of torque)
Apr 14, 2000 (5:11 pm)
I wouldn't count on the GSR being faster than the 1.8T GTI. I've seen 0-60 times for the 1.8T Beetle anywhere from 7.1 to 7.6, and the GTI is lighter, and more aerodynamic (Although that probably wouldn't matter to 60, might make a little difference in the 1/4). The GSR has about 20 more HP, but its got about 30 less lb/ft.
#289 of 667 Car Origin
Apr 14, 2000 (6:36 pm)
Just one quick question: are Golfs made in Germany, or in Mexico like the Jettas and Passats?? And, does it really matter in terms of quality?? (I noticed there are a lot of lemons with Jettas). Also, is it true that if the VIN# starts with a "W" it is German made, whereas those with "3" or "4" are Mexican?
Apr 14, 2000 (7:19 pm)
I think that GTI's are still made in Germany, and that Golf's are made in Brazil, but I can't remember where I heard that or even if it's accurate.
Apr 16, 2000 (7:19 am)
If I were you I would look at the 1.8t Golf and the TDI Golf. Believe it or not the TDI Golf out accelerates the 2 liter Golf. Not by much but hey it's a 90hp diesel engine that averages 42-50mpg, pretty impressive if you ask me. However for a couple of thousand more go with the GTI that way you will not have to worry about future turbo problems. I would also take a look at the Integra GSR which is also in that price range I think. Though it lacks considerable in torque it still offers alot of fun up top.
I was once told that anytime is a good time to buy a VW since VW doesn't offer to many rebates like other car manufacturers.
Apr 16, 2000 (9:24 pm)
Does anyone know when the next generation of civic hbs are coming out? Or any specs about them?