Last post on Jul 31, 2013 at 2:11 AM
You are in the Volkswagen Golf
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Volkswagen Golf, Honda Civic, Hatchback
#658 of 667 Re: what to buy? [jamesey]
May 17, 2006 (1:25 pm)
Read the post above yours, as well as the one I replied to. VW reliability is quite poor by today's standards, and while they drive nicely, they don't last long without repairs.
#659 of 667 VW's are beautiful, but I'm too scared to get one
Jul 25, 2006 (10:27 pm)
I have a 1997 Honda Civic EX, and it's been great. I have almost 178,000 miles on it and it was only in the shop once, late last year. It's been incredibly reliable but I've been looking at the new VW GTI's, for when it's time to get a new car. I've heard such horror stories about VW reliability. Anyone here had a VW that went longer than 7-8 years without trouble? Thank you.
#660 of 667 Re: VW's are beautiful, but I'm too scared to get one [luxx80]
Jun 28, 2008 (5:37 pm)
7 or 8 years? On a really nice clear day I can get my cabriolet 7 or 8 MILES without a lot of trouble. I think the insulation on the wiring conducts electricity better than the wire inside. If it sprinkles the power windows quit. If it rains hard, the car will locate the most dangerous intersection around and die in the middle of it, while the heated seats send 12V into your soaking wet rear end. I need a little trailer to pull behind it so I can carry a awning to set up over it in intersections and a generator and hair dryer to dry off all the wiring harnesses. Sorry, it was one of those days out with it again today
Jul 01, 2008 (11:55 am)
Can we rename this Rabbit vs Civic instead of Golf?
#662 of 667 Re: Golf or something else... [jpmccormac]
Dec 30, 2010 (9:19 pm)
I have an automatic 1994 Civic EX with the 1.6 liter. I got 32 mpg average during combined highway and city driving last summer. With the AC on, it drops down to about 27 or 26 and these are the figures I typically get in the winter (you can't drive it without AC and heat in the winter or it fogs up). Note that this is the "sport" vtec engine for that model year, the same engine that they put in the Civic Si. I have heard of the regular ones, 1.5 L I think, getting over 40 highway and if you want a real shocker, check out the Del Sol and CRX mileage.
Other thoughts on the car. Handling is amazing. It drives like a sports car even though it isn't. The power moonroof, locks, windows and all of that other stuff still works. I bought the car with 128,000 when I was 16 for $3,000. It now has 165,000 with under $500 worth of repairs the entire time I have owned it. This includes an O2 sensor that was bad when I bought it. It has been great but like a Honda, the road noise is annoying like any Honda. Anyway, that's just my experience and my take. No disrespect to VW. I am actually choosing between a new Golf and Civic right now.
May 13, 2011 (10:10 pm)
This was a real battle of the two cars, a 2012 civic LX and a 2011 Golf 4 door 2.5PZEV, both automatics. I was close to buying the civic as a second car, but the attitude of the Honda sales that they are doing you a favor by selling MSRP. not a couple of thousand over msrp, really sours the deal. I decided to test drive lots of othe alternatives, I used to own a 1992 Golf GTI 15 years ago, so I went and test drove a 2011 Golf 2.5. This car has trully grown up. It has the same interior as my 2006 C class mercedes and drives like it too. And they will sell it at invoice price. Brings it down to only $700 more than a Civic LX, but I get blue tooth w/c is not available on the Civic LX, the Golf just feels more car, and more value, the Civic a bit tinny. Tomorow afternoon, we are picking up the car, a shark blue metallic Golf 4 door PZEV
May 17, 2011 (6:51 pm)
We got the car last weekend, paid $100 over invoice, 2.9% for 60 months and I acutally got what I wanted for my old trade a 1996 Mercedes Benz C220. The Golf matches the ride of the C220 and also has better handling. The interior is Audi like, the 2.5 I-5 growls like a W203 Mercedes too.
#666 of 667 Volkswagen Golf or Honda Civic For 17 Year Old Son
Jul 31, 2012 (8:27 am)
My 17 year son lives about 800 miles away from me. I am looking to get him a safe reliable car. Two possibilities are the Golf and the Civic. One think that I worry about is the size of the Golf and it's wheelbase only being 165in long; the passengers rear passengers seem really close to the rear bumper. Should I be concerned about this? Consumer reports doesn't seem to like the 2012 Civic too much this year; but it does get good safety ratings from IIHS and the NHTSA.
Some (including some of the people who write for Edmunds) say that a mid-size car is the best choice (like an Accord). Consumer reports also says the TSX is a good choice for teens.
He'd probably be just driving my car if he lived here, but he doesn't have access to one at this home at the moment.
Any opinions or thoughts on these choices?
#667 of 667 Re: Volkswagen Golf or Honda Civic For 17 Year Old Son [ajomiii]
Jul 31, 2013 (2:11 am)
These are two very different vehicles. The VW is a hatch and will be way more useful when carrying larger objects than a sedan with a trunk. For example, with the rear seat folded, he will be able to fit his bike into the hatch. If you look at publications that track reliability, e.g. Consumer Reports, you will find the Golf and Civic are both above average in reliability. Typically the manual transmissions will be more reliable than the automatics and will reduce the cost of the vehicle by about a thousand dollars. Note that the 2.5 in the VW is a five cylinder engine and will probably not provide as good fuel economy as the Honda four, but will provide more performance. The VW interior is much more upscale than the Civic. And, when comparing the two, you will find the VW to be more capable and much quieter on the highway. As far as accidents are concerned, the real issue is accident avoidance so opt for the better handling car ... that is the one element you can control.