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#427 of 504 Thanx Again only1harry
Aug 08, 2000 (10:09 pm)
Thanx again Harry, well a salesman named ďDaugĒ from Springfield Acura, NJ told me that they should be receiving the new Integras in September/2000. Thatís why I decided to put money down cause he said if I didnít there would be a long waiting list. But after you showed me a picture of the new possible 2001 Integra Iíve been thinking about getting my money back. Like I said before and Iíll say it again, the new Integra looks horrible (that is, if the one you showed me in the picture is the one actually coming out). I decided not to get my money back just yet because you never know. I want to go see it right in front of me before I decide to do anything else.
I canít remember which issue of ďCar&DriverĒ I saw it in but they had a picture of a possible 2001 Integra and it looked much better then the one you showed me. It kinda looked like a mixed between the NSX and the Integra (Which I think is a much better way to go). The one you showed me, which looked more like a mix between the Prelude and I donít know what else certainly not an Integra (is not the way to go). Right now Iím just going to wait and see and I know what you mean about them not giving me my money back in a quick fashion if I decide not to buy. And by the time they do give it back to me they have already made it up in interest anyways, hee hee! Them dealer guys know too much but then again if I have to sue them for 10 times the amount I put down then Iíll do so. Like that instead of buying an Integra Iíll buy a brand new 2001 four wheel drive BMW M3 cash!!!!!!!!!!! HEE HEE
Aug 09, 2000 (12:42 am)
Didn't you only put down like $100 or something? Don't tell me you gave them like $20K???? Is this your first new car? Dealer always try and get you to put down thousands of dollars so your money can sit in their bank account and make them interest or they invest it and make money while you wait and wait.. I 've bought 5 new cars and 2 of them had a $100 deposit just to hold it until I made up my mind or while I was shopping around. The others I didn't put anything down and told the guy, "yeah if you sell the car within a day or two, then it's my loss, don't worry about it!". The cars were still there a few days later. Most guys I know that bought a Type-R just gave their name & ph# as the dealer had a list and it was first come first serve. Anyway I guarantee you we won't see the new Integra in showroom in September because all Integras in the past came out in late October.
Where is Springfield Acura? Is that near Berkeley Heights? The reason I 'm asking is because that's where I work and there is a Springfield Avenue that I know goes through several towns.
Aug 09, 2000 (12:56 am)
I looked it up on Yahoo maps. It's about 15-20min. from where I work. That's good to know in case I have problems with my GSR. I didn't know if there was an Acura dealer in that area. I 'm not too familiar with those towns because I live in NY and I all I do is get on 24 to 78 to 287 to 87 (New York State Thruway). I stay on the major highways. I regularly see a '00 yellow Type-R on 78 and in Berkeley Heights. I 'm pretty sure it's the same guy. Hey, we 'll be autocross racing this Sunday at the Meadowland. It's a BMW event sponsored by the M-Club. There will be at least 3 Type-R's there (one is my brother's '98), a couple of GSR's and a Prelude SH if you want to come and watch or even participate. It doesn't matter what you drive. It's a lot of fun. Most ITR owners race their cars so com'on over and watch because you 'll probably be doing this next year if you buy a Type-R. Besides, most Type-R owners in the area know each other so come and meet them and tell them you 'll be a '01 ITR owner I 'll know all those guys there. We usually go racing together and kick BMW butt. Hopefully Jeff will be there in his modified (suspension) '98 ITR and will kick major M3 butt!
I love his car. An ITR is good enough stock, but with modified suspension and race tires, it's just amazing. You can't miss it. We 'll be using one of the parking lots there. Look for red cones and the cars. All the other parking lots will be empty so it's easy to find us. I can give you the lot # if you 're interested, once I look it up at the web site.
Aug 10, 2000 (10:34 pm)
Thanx for telling me about the races in the Meadowlands. Tell me the lot # just in case I decide to go. The only problem is that at the moment I donít have an automobile. Thatís why Iím in the process of buying a new one. After you told me that the new Integras wonít be coming out until May or something like that I decided to check with other Acura Dealers and you are correct none of the other Acura Dealers I called told me that the new Integras are coming out in ďSeptemberĒ. One tried to tell me in October but I think thatís bull shít also. I donít think Iíll be able to wait that long for the new Integra typeRs since I need a car now. Being that the new Integra type r is a bit out of reach for me because of time and the current ones seem to be sold-out. What would be the next best thing to the Acura Integra Type R (for the money). My second pick has always been the Prelude SH. What do you think about that???
#431 of 504 excellent choice!
Aug 11, 2000 (12:02 am)
My friend has a black '99 Prelude SH and he races with us. Very nice car. I 've been in it a couple of times and once I went on a run with him (autocross racing). I was impressed. It was as good as my modded GSR. Stock to stock it handles better than a GSR. More torque too. He 'll be at the Meadowlands this Sunday. He is leasing it for 2yrs. I know they run like $24-25K if you were to buy them. The Active Torque system (ATTS) works really well at the track. He does 3 wheeling all the time! We have him on video with the inside rear wheel off the ground several times, just like the Type-Rs. It also has a respectable top speed of 140mph (GSR is 134 stock)
Another friend of mine has a black '98 base Prelude and races at Limerock, CT every summer. That's a touch road course! Definitely the 2nd best choice after the Type-R. Have you read last year's R&T October (or Nov.) issue? They tested 7 sports coupes (& hatchbacks). The base Prelude came in 1st overall, Eclipse was 2nd, Celica GT-S 3d, Integra GSR 4th, VW VR6 5th, and Imperza 2.5 & Cougar 6th & last. Very good comparison test.
Aug 13, 2000 (1:27 am)
To anybody who thinks you have any idea what the next-gen Integra will be like, your probably wrong. I mean, Honda has traditionally been very tight-lipped about its upcoming models and concrete info is practically impossible to come by. I really hope they use a modified, longer-wheelbase version of the s2000 platform rather than the civic platform like the previous 3 generations. This would turn the integra into a true sports car.
Aug 14, 2000 (3:58 pm)
There has been a lot of talk and articles that Honda will NOT be using the Civic platform again for the '01 Integra.
I do disagree with your other statment though.. The Type-R is a true sports car. It has awesome handling and great braking capabilities. The Civic platform is not a bad one at all. The Type-R's is just more reinforced and rigid due to some strategically welded steel plates on the subframe, larger suspension bushings, stiffer springs & shocks with larger antiroll bars supplimented by Limited Slip differential and big brakes. 6.2sec 0-60 and 14.8 in the 1/4 also classify it as a sports car. I 've spent $1300 on suspension upgrades on my '99 GSR and it's still no Type-R. At autocross racing yesterday I drove my brother's Type-R and it was just a much more balanced car, more neutral, and did everything faster: corner, accelerate and brake. No wonder I haven't been able to match his times yet. Now I 'm going with more aggressive suspension stuff & brakes and start selling what I got
Aug 14, 2000 (7:09 pm)
If you're drooling over a Type-R so much and trying to emulate one, why don't you just cut to the chase and get one? Wouldn't that be easier than trying to turn a GSR wannabe into a Type-R? Easier but not as much fun as tinkering maybe? Just wondering.
About my 1987 Integra, I watched it turn over 280,000 on the way to work this morning. I'm putting about 450 miles a week on it as my weekly commute is about 210 miles from home. I have no hesitation about going any where any time with it and don't wonder if it will be dependable. Every time I think about trading it in I talk myself out of it by saying it's paid for, and costs very little to operate. On average, about $600 per year goes into maintenance now, which includes preventive maintenance. That's way less than car payments.
I bought it new. It's a LS 4 door hatch with 5 speed. I bought a 4 door 'cause I wanted something I could grow into if I got married and eventually had kids (and now do). Plus, I hate 2 door cars, the seat belts are too hard to reach. I wanted a hatchback so I could haul stuff around, since I only had one car. It was and is the ideal car for me, an excellent compromise between a fun car and a practical car.
As for your questions, it still has the original gear box. I'm on my 2nd clutch, replaced I think at about 120k, back in the days when I used to drive hard and fast. I take it a bit easier now adays, still fast but a bit easier on the starts.
As for major maintenance, so far I have replaced clutch at 120k, 2 inner cv joints at about 230k, water pump twice as part of recommended pm (can you say interference engine?), alternator at about 200k, fuel injectors at 250k, a brake diverter valve, and maybe a few other miscellaneous items you might expect like brake rotors, other pm type things like plug wires, and then the wear items like brake pads, tires, etc.
#435 of 504 Good price on Integra 2-dr LS Automatic?
Aug 19, 2000 (1:40 am)
What is the going price that is good for the Acura mentioned above? I got a $17900 before tax, title and registration. Can I bargain down another $500, you think? Thanks for the help!
Aug 20, 2000 (5:27 pm)
That's a very good price considering sticker on an LS auto is almost $2K more! Yes, you could go down another $300-500 because I believe carsdirect.com is around $17.5K for an LS auto I guess due to the $1500 factory-dealer incentives. Check them out and compare.
PS. I recommend the 5-sp. Faster and more fun to drive plus it will save you $700-800 and you 'll have a lot less problems with the tranny down the road.