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#168 of 504 dealers can't decide?
Dec 19, 1999 (10:01 pm)
I have been looking now at some Integras. I am NOT a Honda person. Almost every car I have owned came from the (hiccup) lovely state of Michigan. The 1980 and 1986 Civics I had were horrible, the '80 lost its timing belt the day after I bought it, and the '86 blew its head gasket 130 miles after I bought it (temp gauge was stuck halfway between C and H). The girlfriend bought a 1998 LS hatchback, automatic, and she loves it. I found a 1994 sedan (automatic) I wouldn't mind owning, but I really want a standard shift. The dealer showed me a price of $8500 listed on the window sticker for that sedan with 78K. Then when we went inside to discuss a deal, he started up at $8995. Then he went down to $8250, then when his manager came over to work on me, they started back up at $8995. I looked at several book prices on this car, including Edmund's, and I figure the car is worth $6500-$7000 cash with those miles and the non-factory rims (the rims have Honda logos and look like they came off a late-eighties Prelude). I do like the car, and the automatic chirped the tires from 1-2 AND 2-3. This is an automatic, seriously. Maybe it's about to break, I don't know, but I'm searching for my standard shift before I drop an $8000 note on another car. Anyone have problems with Acura dealers unable to price their cars properly? This was Lindsey Acura in Columbus, Ohio.
#169 of 504 Aftermarket leather and Tasmania
Dec 26, 1999 (2:25 pm)
Two thoughts on aftermarket leather : Extremely expensive and (usually) poor quality. My friends dad wanted to get the front bench in his Monte Carlo covered in leather and they told him it would be about 3 grand. As far as the price of Hondas in Tasmania, I have no idea what the current exchange rate between here and Australia is, so I can't tell ya. In the US the car you described, depending on what options/type of integra it is, could be worth anything from 2,000 to maybe 4,000 USD. You might want to be more specific, as you didn't list whether it's an Rs or an LS, what options it has, what type of shape its in. I'm also assuming by 130000 on the clock you're talking km.
Dec 26, 1999 (11:31 pm)
It's not that the dealers can't decide, they play games and try to get as much money from you as they can.
I would seriously recommend a 5-sp. Integra ('94 & up). They 're faster than the autos and the manual gear box will never brake. Automatic Integras are usually very reliable though.
Dealers always price their used cars high so they can start negotiating down and pretend they 're giving you a break on the price.. Make him an offer of $6700 and watch what happens. He 'll probably come back with $7500-7900. Tell him you researched it and the the car is worth no more than $7K. Stick to your guns and maybe go up to $7,000 and he 'll call you back eventually after a few days. Used cars sit in the lot for a long time and they 're usually eager to get rid of them. I 'd personally look for a 5-sp.. It 'll be cheaper than an auto.
#171 of 504 1990-1993 Integras
Dec 29, 1999 (9:16 am)
I have owned my '90 Integra LS, Hatchback, 5spd, for 8 months now and put about 19k miles on it. Damn I love this car! The styling of the 2nd generation Integras (1990 to 1993) is bolder and better than the 3rd generation, almost everyone agrees, even the 3rd generation Integra owners. I drove a 1999 Integra LS Sedan, automatic and MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Right away I noticed my 9 year old car has better acceleration and handling! Personally I think the best Integra ever would be the 1993 Integra GSR, 160 hp in a 2600 lb car is pretty zippy and looks cool as hell! As far as you people looking for NEW Integras, the 2000 Integra Type R seems like a lot of bang for the buck, 195 hp street race car for under $25,000 list. Sign me up! 'Course, I'm holding out for an NSX-T.
For more info on 2nd Generation Integras, visit this site! www.gen2integras.8m.com
Dec 30, 1999 (1:18 am)
I just purchased an integra GS coupe with automatic transmission for $20,700 including the acura floormats,(optional dealer item).I am impressed with the power for a 1.8 litre 4 cylinder.The stereo system is also excellent.I recomend the floor mats as they provide very good protection as well as look vey nice.The only other additional charges were tax title and registration,no advertising fees.I hope this helps out anyone thinking about buying one.The only problem with the car is getting away from my wife.Good Luck and let me know how you do.
#173 of 504 2001 Integra and Carorder.com
Dec 30, 1999 (2:51 pm)
For those of you who are planning to purchase soon, try http://www.carorder.com. I priced a number of 2000 Integras and most of them were below invoice, even the GS-R. I have not had any personal experience with carorder.com BUT I went through the carorder.com bulletin board (also here on Edmund's) and found a lot of positive feedback.
My sister recently bought a '99 Integra LS Coupe (the old fashioned way) and she was able to get $18750 + tax. I thought that was a decent deal until I saw another '99 Interga LS Coupe at a local dealership down here in Orlando, FL for $17,653 + tax. Year-end is the best time to deal.
I'm not sure how the 2001 Integra will look like but this page seems to speculate:
#174 of 504 '90 LS & prices..
Dec 30, 1999 (8:11 pm)
ryuyszh: The '90 Integra LS is slower than a '94-'00 LS by at least .5s to 60mph.
Although there is only a 10hp difference the '94&up Integra 5-sp is noticeably faster than the '90 LS. My friend had a '90 LS (nice car - white) 5-sp. which he had bought new and I had driven it several times. In '94 when the new Tegs came out we had raced a couple and always lost. Then my brother bought a '95 LS which I also drove at least a dozen times and it was definitely faster. Your '90 LS will kill an auto G3 Teg no problem though.. Most 0-60 times tested by major car mags for '90-93 Integras were 8.7-9.3s (5-sp)
G3 Integra RS/LS were always 7.9-8.5s (5-sp) but if you want to believe your car is faster, that's fine by me. Don't forget the new Tegs you test drove were not broken in and I don't know if you redlined them or not. They get a lot faster after a few thousand miles. Also don't forget that you probably test drove them with a 200lb salesman in it and compared it to your car when you're by yourself and no passenger. 200lbs will rob the car of about 8HP.
intocars: $20,700 for a GS?? Sounds like a lot
I paid $19,890 for my '99 GSR through www.carsdirect.com. That's $400 under dealer
invoice. 'Crikey' is right. You can get Integras at or below invoice these days because they 're not selling too well due to the new Celica and a lot of other new models out by different manufacturers. This is the best time to buy one though because next fall they 'll be selling for sticker. They 'll be redesigned and have more power and will be more in demand than now.
When I went to buy my car last June, the dealers' lots had about 15-20 Integras sitting there collecting dust. Carsdirect.com price was $20.3K which was pretty good ($22,550-MSPR). I haggled with the lady at carsdirect and told her about a $1K dealer incentive that was in effect, etc. etc.
2 days later they dropped it to $19,895 and I locked in on that. The dealer still made about $600 (plus 2%holdback) due to the $1K factory-dealer incentive. I remember people here on Edmunds paying $17.6-17.9K for 5-sp. LS's.
Now that's a great deal. ABS, sunroof, CD, 4wheel-disk, power/w/l/cruise for under $18K.
My brother paid $18K for his LS (w/spoiler) in '95!
But your GS has leather, auto tranny & rear spoiler. Should be about $20K (dealer's cost without incentives or holdback)... You didn't do that bad at all. Sticker on an auto GS is about $22,200, so you saved about $1500, not bad.
Congrats, enjoy your new car!
#175 of 504 1990 vs. Brand New
Jan 02, 2000 (8:06 am)
I'm not saying my 1990 LS coupe is faster than a brand new G3 LS coupe. I did NOT fail to mention that the G3 Teg I was driving was AUTOMATIC, 4 DOOR, and BRAND NEW. I did forget to mention that my girlfriend was a passenger. The new Integras are pretty nice cars but the styling is soooo bland and generic and that quad headlight thing is hideous! I certainly wouldn't mind a new GSR or Type R but I would definitely get the Japanese front end conversion. Still like my '90 though and I'll keep it till I have enough for my NSX. hehe.
Jan 02, 2000 (9:46 pm)
Sorry about that, you wrote:
"I drove a '99LS automatic & MAN what a diff.."
I thought you meant you drove both auto & manual!
I read it again and it doesn't look that way now, oh well. Yes, your '90 LS 5-sp is definitely faster than a new auto Teg.
If someone was selling a '93LS 5-sp. and a '94LS auto with the same mileage for the same price, I 'd buy the '93 w/5-speed. The autos noticeably lack the performance of the 5-sp. Tegs and get worse mileage. I believe in getting the most out of an engine and an auto tranny does nothing but injustice for the Integra's excellent 1.8L 140hp eninge.
Hey, when you get your NSX, could you let me drive it a little, maybe around the block?
I 've driven my brother's '98 Type-R many times and I can only imagine what the NSX would feel like.. I guess my imagination would have to do for now
#177 of 504 Why is this happening?
Jan 03, 2000 (11:58 pm)
I have a '94 Integra LS 5-speed. I've put 4k miles on the car since it was purchased with 58k miles. Since then I've replaced the entire radiator system ($630), 2 sensors ($500) because the check engine light would come on and limit the car at 3500 rpms, and also it would stahl occasionally. The distributor cap and rotor ($70) was also replaced fearing this could be the problem. It was due to be changed at 60k miles anyway. I even replaced the battery because it was looking a little too worn. Has anyone else had problems like these?