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13114 messages, Last post on Dec 12, 2005 at 7:45 PM
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Replying to: whitecloud1 (Dec 08, 2005 10:05 am) 
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Replying to: djm2 (Dec 09, 2005 4:32 am)
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Replying to: jjaxon (Dec 08, 2005 9:50 am) Now what about American car makers? Both of my vehicles were make in the USA. One is called a Honda Accord and the other is called a Ford Explorer. Ford and GM are American corporations who make vehicles and vehicle parts all over the world. Honda & Toyota are Japanese corporations that make vehicle and vehicle parts all over the world. The fact the Toyota and Honda are beating the pants off of GM & Ford involves complicated issues involving costs of pensions, healthcare and product design and quality. You can’t dismiss the issues with name calling. I believe we all want GM & Ford to do well because we all win when that happens. The Japanese auto makers are doing a better job producing vehicles that we want to purchase, so we purchase them. Their vehicles are not perfect, but their rate of failure is lower. I brought my Explorer back to Ford at least 8 times to correct problems and have recalls worked on. I had to bring my Honda Accord back to the dealer three times for some minor problems. I am pleased with both of my cars, but why do I feel better about my Honda? We have to learn to compete in a new, global economy. We will do that with our creativity and hard work. Of course, while doing that we will still use these forums to discuss issues involving our cars! |
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Story: I have 4cyc accord 05. I really want to go to local franchise shop to have oil change, not other maintenance services. I try to avoid going to the Honda dealer because it’s far from my home/work. I plan to have oil change every 7500 miles instead of 10,000 miles per manual. I drive under normal condition (to work in Tennessee for 20 miles (one way: 30-40 minutes) : 50% highway ~75mph and 50% local ~40mph). My questions are: 1) Can the shop uses any 5W-20 motor oil, or it must be a particular brand? 2) Should I change the oil filer for every oil change? if so, what is the brand that Honda uses? Thank you, |
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Replying to: kanu (Dec 09, 2005 7:52 am) Change the oil filter every oil change. It's cheap. No point in not doing it. |
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This forum is for Honda Accord Owners Problems and Solutions. Please confine your posts directly to issues related to solving problems on these cars, okay? Off-topic posts *WILL* be removed in the future so as to keep the forum's direction as intended. There are a LOT of discussion on global economy, Big Three, Consumer Reports, etc. in the News & Views Message Board. Please join those if you wish. Thanks! MrShiftright Host |
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Replying to: kanu (Dec 09, 2005 7:52 am) I agree 100% with altair4's response. As to oil filters, Honda dealers will install a "Honda" brand oil filter. Most of the Honda dealers in the U.S. and Canada use a Canadian made filter from a plant operated by FRAM and distributed under the "Honda" brand name. These filters are NOT identical in appearance to their FRAM-branded equivalents on sale at parts stores and mass merchandisers, but they do share similar construction. (You really have to hunt to find the much better made Japanese "Honda" filters anymore, though some dealers will order them for you.) There's nothing wrong with the Canadian "FRAM" Honda filters, but you can get better quality for much less $$$$$ with the "Purolator" brand equivalent. As to oil brand from Honda dealers, their parts departments stock and will sell you "Honda" brand motor oil in quart bottles. ExxonMobil is the actual blender and bottler of "Honda" motor oil. If you were to buy Mobil Clean 5000 or Exxon Superflow in 5W-20 viscosity, you'd be getting the same oil but in different quart bottles. (As it is, with Honda as the middleman, guess what that translates to in the final dealer pricing markup?...) That's not necessarily what dealers put into your car in the service bays, though. Most dealers of any size have bulk drums delivered by a jobber. It's metered out by pump to your car through a nozzle - cheaper for the dealer (not you), less mess, and no plastic bottles to contend with for proper environmental disposal. (Empty bulk drums are cleaned and refilled and the jobber handles the return at the time he delivers another full drum.) The oil inside the drum will be one of a number of name-brands, so is very good quality. (When a car dealer buys wholesale by the 40 gallon drum, the actual price per quart only works out to around 50 cents. You, of course, will be charged around $2.50/quart. Ask me what I think of car dealerships.) If you buy your own oil, as long as it states it meets API "SM" and ILSAC "GF-4", and is 5W-20 viscosity, you're good to go for warranty purposes regardless of brand or price paid. Just keep your receipts and a hand-written log if you do your own oil and filter changes. Given that 50% of your daily driving is city, I'd be more inclined to change oil and filter every 5,000 miles. (Forgive my freely admitted skepticism, but I'd find it a very novel experience, indeed, to be able to average 40 mph through city environs - legally, anyway.  )
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Replying to: haefr (Dec 09, 2005 10:34 am) I have two nearby Toyota dealerships. One uses Kendall, the other uses Valvoline. So much for servicing with 'genuine' Honda and Toyota products. It's odd that the service department would use something different than what their parts shops stock, which is only the company labeled product. Go figure. |
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