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#3498 of 3742 Re: 2000 Protege 1.6L DOHC won't idle, runs rough [primemover]
Jun 17, 2009 (11:44 am)
Sounds like my problem! My car is still in the garage from Jan 09'. It overheated blew the radiator and left me stranded 15 miles away in -30 degree weather in the middle of corn fields! I Did find out my valves were shot from trying to make it while over heating. I had the head serviced for 375 bucks along with all new gaskets 100 bucks only to have now what sounds like the same problem as you. It will start then die start then die! it did run once until it came to temp I was like cool I will drive it but as soon as I put it in reverse it died! then didnt restart for an hour or so.... I have a fuel pressure tester coming to check fuel pressure while it starts n dies. I am hoping to get this junk running so I can scrap it! I hate mazda! I hate computer controlled cars! Never again will I buy a car that depends on a computer! I bought a 1986 ford 4x4 that Im converting to mechanical fuel pump and carburator controlled with a gas tank in the bed. No more depending on computers for me! I dont know what I was thinking buying this junk mazda! If you have any advice I could use it and I am glad to be of help if I have been! ...Robert
#3499 of 3742 Re: 2000 Protege 1.6L DOHC won't idle, runs rough [primemover]
Jun 17, 2009 (8:35 pm)
What you describe sounds exactly like improper timing. Maybe time to take it to a professional to get the timing right.
Jun 18, 2009 (12:42 pm)
Pictures of correct factory timing marks from a car is all we need to see if we are idiots. Someone please take your valve cover off, put it at top dead center, and snap a picture of the cams and gears. How can we do any work when the book is telling us to do something wrong or telling nothing at all for the 1.6L. Its a joke. All we need is a never toyed with 1.6L picture with the timing marks and cam gears placement at TDC. If its correct then we need to look elsewhere. Like I am with buying a fuel pressure guage that goes above 30 lol. Just waiting for it to arrive hoping this week!
#3501 of 3742 Re: 03 Protege RPM/Losing Power [ddekleuver]
Jun 22, 2009 (8:49 am)
Hey...not sure if you're still monitoring this discussion or not, but I thought I'd give it a try anyway...
I signed up for this car blog thing because I read your March 15th post, and the exact same thing has been going on with my car for the past 3 or so years. I've dealt with it because it has been so random, and I usually can get where I need to go, but recently it has gotten to the point where I am not sure if I'll get from point A to point B anymore and I'm sick of it! (In fact, this past weekend I also had to drive back from a trip I started at 55 MPH and then get a rental.)
The only differences that I can notice is that mine happens during any speeds (but it's worst on the highway), and I didn't have a cylinder misfire (not quite sure what that is, though). My check engine light has never come on, and the computer codes show nothing.
Sorry, I know there was a big long discussion after your initial post, but could you possibly recap in very simple terms for me? Was your problem ever totally fixed? I am not very car savvy, but mine is currently at a mazda dealership being tested, so I am just wondering what you found out.
Thanks a ton!! I appreciate any insights!
#3502 of 3742 Re: 03 Protege RPM/Losing Power [cubbygrl17]
Jun 22, 2009 (9:12 am)
after i had gone to the dealer i had so many things done and actually it was not what it seems it was ,i have a mazda protege 97 ,this car had so many things done,after i had all this things done my real problem was the timing belt and the water pump,but i also did a completely tune up (coil -rotor- o ring-cap plugs-wires-
clean fuel injectors replace one , maf sensor-replace connectors-air filter-check all the water and air hose from the radiator and egr valve and fuel line-also i had a new egr valve-a new idle air control valve ,fuel filter,fuel regulator, clean the intake manifold,so many things before i had the timing belt and the water pump.so i will suggest before you try to do so many of this things you should have an honest meccanic check it out and give you an estimate,also if you are not getting enough power it could be a transmission issue and fuel pump issue,or related to fuel,guessing can be expence try to minimize the real problem,one by one,i started that the computer tells me it was an egr valve and it follows by other but the computer was wrong so many times, it give an engine light because there was other real problems causing it ,anyway good luck.
#3503 of 3742 Protege Transmission - Overdrive Gear
Jun 26, 2009 (3:41 am)
I have a 2002 Protege LX with 63,000. Recently while driving, it will not stay in overdrive. Pops out, and I let off the gas and it slips in, put on the gas, slips out again. Does not do any slipping in any other gear, just overdrive. Any ideas? AAMCO wants to rebuild the entrie transmission, but I strongly believe this is not the case because they are not certain where the problem sits. I'm thinking something electrical?? It doesn't have many miles to warrant a total transmission rebuild.
#3504 of 3742 Buying 2002 or 2003 Protege..Need your ADVICE
Jul 05, 2009 (9:54 pm)
I'm looking into buying a 2002 or 2003 Mazda Protege with around 70,000 miles to get to around while I'm still in college. This will be my first car so I would appreciate some advice on the following:
- Is there much difference in reliability between the 2002 and 2003 models?
- Are there things in particular I should look for when I go check out the car? I've read here about the EGR valve, anything I can check for related to that? Any other problems?
- I know it depends on a lot of factors, but overall would you say it is a good purchase that won't give me too much trouble?
Since this will be my first car I am a little nervous about getting a lemon, so I would really appreciate your input.
#3505 of 3742 Re: Buying 2002 or 2003 Protege..Need your ADVICE [jenni81]
Jul 06, 2009 (11:10 am)
Is there much difference in reliability between the 2002 and 2003 models?
No, there is no big difference in reliability.
Are there things in particular I should look for when I go check out the car? I've read here about the EGR valve, anything I can check for related to that? Any other problems?
Rust around the wheel wells can be a problem. Also, check the state of the disc brakes to see that they do not need replacement.
I know it depends on a lot of factors, but overall would you say it is a good purchase that won't give me too much trouble?
Overall, a reliable car. Check Consumer Reports for their recommendations on used cars. To be sure the car has been well maintained ask the seller if they have all the service records and have the car checked at a mechanic of your choosing. Be wary of sellers who do not want to do this. If a seller claims the car is fine they should feel confirdent about it passing this test. Your mechanic will also provide valuable information about items that may need to be addressed in the near future (such as worn tires) so that you can reduce the surprises after your purchase.
Final words about Proteges: great cars!
#3506 of 3742 Re: Buying 2002 or 2003 Protege..Need your ADVICE [jenni81]
Jul 06, 2009 (5:40 pm)
At 70k there are some things you want to know
- How does the transmission perform? Drive it on the highway, noting how the transmission shifts as you accelerate onto the highway and how it downshifts as you decelerate. If you detect anything rough or jerky, or if it fails to stay in overdrive while at speed, stay away.
- When you turn the key on, the Check Engine light will come on momentarily as a test. Make sure it really comes on - otherwise it may have been tampered with. Also make sure the light goes out once the engine is started.
- Pay careful attention to how the car idles in Park, and in gear while stopped. It should idle smooth and not too fast. EGR problems, IAC valve problems, or vacuum leaks will cause idle problems.
- If it has power windows, make sure they all roll up and down.
- Drive slowly over a speed bump or similar, and listen for clunks in either the front end or back. Rear endlinks aren't too expensive to have replaced, but front ones are.
#3507 of 3742 Re: Buying 2002 or 2003 Protege..Need your ADVICE [jenni81]
Jul 06, 2009 (6:42 pm)
Really, really good advice there. Thanks a lot downtube and autonomous.
To clarify, you mentioned,
Pay careful attention to how the car idles in Park, and in gear while stopped
I assume this is for an automatic transmission? If so, then for a manual does the same apply when idling in neutral?
Also if anyone else has some other input it would be appreciated.