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Re: 97 mazda protege [giacomod] by giacomod
May 06, 2009 (9:46 pm)
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Replying to: giacomod (Apr 18, 2009 3:01 pm)

thanks for the suggestions, to the forum,i have new updates for my car.
my car is finally repaired,i took me a while from 2 different mazda dealers,that they could not find the right problems,but instead they skrew you and ,change different parts,it serves me and anyone as an experience to get different estimates before you take to any dealer,and before you can do some research ,i finally find an honest meccanic and someone that understands cars, my all problem was not the idle egr valve , or maf sensor,or idle control valve, ,altough i did replaced all of them,compression was good,and clean of trottle helped a lot,
it was the timing belt and water pump that was leaking,and causing a misfire,replace the timing belt ,replace the water pump,seals,valve gasket,coil and rotor ,plugs and wire for the second time,new hoose for the radiator,and the car is finally working like a charm,it took me more money to fix it,but half of the dealer estimate,and it was all done in one day.again thanks to the forum and help,it open my eyes and learned a lot from this experience.
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Re: 2002 Mazda Protege ES: Gas smells coming from air vents [benoit6] by benoit6
May 08, 2009 (3:14 am)
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Replying to: benoit6 (May 01, 2009 3:11 pm)

Okay, I still have the exhaust smell. Also, I'm experiencing idle surges on cold starts. The RPMS will jump from 1000 to 2000 back down to 500. Now what is going on? I'm suspecting the Idle Air Control valve may be faulty, but I don't know. I'm going to take the car back to the dealer. Has anyone else experience this issue?
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Re: 2002 Mazda Protege ES: Gas smells coming from air vents [benoit6] by autonomous
May 08, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: benoit6 (May 08, 2009 3:14 am)

I'm experiencing idle surges on cold starts
I wonder if this may also be related to the car's emission control systems (e.g. EGR or PCV valves). Too bad the shop did not spot this while they had the car.
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Re: 2002 Mazda Protege ES: Gas smells coming from air vents [benoit6] by downtube
May 08, 2009 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: benoit6 (May 08, 2009 3:14 am)

Look for a vacuum leak. Any leak downstream from the MAF sensor will screw up the air/fuel ratio. It will affect idle the most.
 
Look at the accordian pipe between the air cleaner and the intake manifold. Sometimes they develop cracks.
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engine vibration by sir_dude
May 12, 2009 (12:35 pm)
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I own a 2000 protege es 1.8L with under 45k miles. I bought brand new. It's developed an engine vibration after I start it. It happens when the engine is completely cold, I turn on the fan for defrost and when the defrost kicks on the vibration starts and when it kicks off the vibration stops. Also, the transmission has to be in gear, not in Park or Neutral. As the engine warms up to normal operating temp, the vibration almost completely disappears. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 
This is my 2nd protege and has been a great car.
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Re: engine vibration [sir_dude] by autonomous
May 13, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: sir_dude (May 12, 2009 12:35 pm)

I turn on the fan for defrost
What do you mean? What are you "defrost"ing?
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Re: engine vibration [autonomous] by sir_dude
May 15, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (May 13, 2009 2:07 pm)

The frost from off of the windows.
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Re: California Smog Test Failure [aj2000] by 302boss
Jun 02, 2009 (8:59 pm)
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Replying to: aj2000 (Jul 29, 2004 2:25 pm)

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege and it recently failed a CA smog test. The failure was a MIL OBD failure to communicate. In this case, there was nothing wrong with the car, computer or wiring. The battery had been replaced a couple of days before the smog test. The computers memory of recent driving conditions was erased when the battery was removed. The failure was because the computer was not ready to be tested. The car needs to be driven an unknown number of trips of various lengths, speeds and conditions and the computer will store this information. My mechanic said to drive it as much as I can and bring it back and he will check to see if it is ready to be tested. When it is ready, take it back to the smog test center for retest. This is one of the strangest things I have ever heard about a modern automobile.
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Re: California Smog Test Failure [302boss] by autonomous
Jun 03, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: 302boss (Jun 02, 2009 8:59 pm)

The car needs to be driven an unknown number of trips of various lengths, speeds and conditions and the computer will store this information.
 
Interesting. I did not realize that the test used the history from the car's computer.
 
In Ontario Canada we have a Drive Clean Emission program that measures the emission systems of the car every second year. The thirty minute test involves measuring the output at idle and 40 km/hr of hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO) and nitrous oxide (NO) from the tailpipe. Mechanics recommend that prior to testing the car be warmed up by driving it on the highway for a half hour or more. One way of ensuring positive results is to have a fuel system cleaning done before the test.
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Re: California Smog Test Failure [302boss] by downtube
Jun 03, 2009 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: 302boss (Jun 02, 2009 8:59 pm)

This is one of the strangest things I have ever heard about a modern automobile.
 
Welcome to the wonderful world of On Board Diagnostics. The complexity of the OBD software in your car's computer rivals that of the actual control system it's monitoring.
 
Some monitors only run on cold start. Some only run once a certain temperature is reached, and engine is operating at a certain speed and torque output. It may take several drive cycles over several days to get all monitors to run enough to satisfy the smog test.

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