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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [magicmonkeymea] by funguy123
Mar 18, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: magicmonkeymea (Mar 18, 2009 7:54 am)

What about TPS (Throttle Position Sensor)? I did some research and lot of people has the same issue and it went away by replacing TPS.
I can also try TPS, coil packs & ERG valve.
 
how much are the coil packs? Can i get those at the local part stores?
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [funguy123] by autonomous
Mar 18, 2009 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: funguy123 (Mar 18, 2009 6:54 am)

They are telling me that i need to replace TPS, transmission and air valve.
 
Just to be clear, your dealer says you need to replace the transmission?
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [autonomous] by funguy123
Mar 18, 2009 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 18, 2009 11:56 am)

They are telling me that i need to replace TPS, transmission and air valve.
  
Just to be clear, your dealer says you need to replace the transmission?

 
Yes, Mazda Delear told me that I need to replace the transmission. But I am thinking of getting 2nd opnion and see what happens.
I will let you know.
Thank you for your help.
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [funguy123] by funguy123
Mar 19, 2009 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: funguy123 (Mar 18, 2009 12:25 pm)

Guys,
 
I took the Protege to couple of other places and after talking with them it sounds like the TPS is the first thing to try. The transmission may still be good because today the o/d off lite was gone for a while while (~5 Mines) i was driving and the car was running smooth
 
But i will have them replace TPS and let you all know if that fixes the issue. If it dose than "Shame on Mazda Dealer"
 
I will keep everyone posted.
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [funguy123] by funguy123
Mar 23, 2009 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: funguy123 (Mar 19, 2009 5:28 pm)

My Car is now fixed... Yeeeeeeeeee
 
Here is the history. I got check engine and o/d off light. When I get the o/d off than the car would not shift to 3rd gear but when that light goes off than car does go into 3rd & 4th gear. I took the car to mazda dealer. After doing detailed troubleshooting they told me that I will have to replace three things (1) TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) (2) Transmission (2) Air Valve. The cose would be $4500 (if i get new Trnas) $3000 (if i get old Trnas). Well the value of my car is <$4500 so i wasn't going to pay $4500. I took the car to other places (non-Mazda dealer) for 2nd opinion. they told me it could be TPS and may be something else. First I had them replace TPS, that didn't fix the issue But after checking circuits they found the issue with the circuit. and the problem was fixed. The whole thing cost me ~$600. I will never buy another Mazda again in my life and I would not recommend it to anyone.
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [funguy123] by ddekleuver
Mar 23, 2009 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: funguy123 (Mar 23, 2009 5:42 pm)

hey man congrats on your car.. couple of questions.. it sounds like i have a similar issue.. as of late the car will not shift into 3rd gear and struggles to get into second a little.. i have a slap shift so i have to manually throw it into 3rd & 4th.. anyway i have a protege es, not sure what o/d light is you referred to.. i have the check engine light on.. last diagnostic was random cylinder misfire, and rich air fuel ratio bank 1.. like you i can't really get the speed up.. and no way of getting past 40 - 45 mph.. but this is constant, likewise i've been told possibly transmission, but not so sure, what circuits exactly were the issue, not very car smart, may only be one type, idk, but any info would be awesome.. thanks bro
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [funguy123] by autonomous
Mar 24, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: funguy123 (Mar 23, 2009 5:42 pm)

I will never buy another Mazda again in my life and I would not recommend it to anyone.
Curious ...
 
Did you buy the car new or used? If used, do you know how it was maintained prior to your procurement?
 
How many miles do you have on the car? All cars (and most of us humans) have problems as they age. Having to spend $600 on a repair for an old car is not unusual. And, a nine year old car with transmission problems should not be a shock. But that's not your case, because your nine year old's transmission seems fine.
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [ddekleuver] by funguy123
Mar 24, 2009 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: ddekleuver (Mar 23, 2009 6:22 pm)

ddekleuver,
 
"o/d off" is a light next the check engine. Which means over drive is off. I have automatic gear so when this light is on my over drive (3rd and 4the gear) are off and car will never go to 3rd or 4th gear. Means i can't drive more than 40 MPH.
 
First let me ask you this, Can you some time drive into 3rd or 4th gear without a problem? If yes that i don't think its a transmission issue.
 
Also, As you can see i was given 3 codes when they checked my car. That was all because of bad circuit. That may be the case for you.
 
I would say take to the places that do free codes on your car. Make sure you get more than one opinion as I found out, the first guy may not always be correct.
 
Honestly I think your issue is probably electrical just like mine. I was able to find a decent place who checked everything out for < $200. Unfortunately these problems are not slam dunk. Good Luck and let us all know how it goes.
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [autonomous] by funguy123
Mar 24, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 24, 2009 1:19 pm)

autonomous,
 
Sorry I should have been more clear on why i am not happy with Mazda.
 
We purchased this car new back in 2000. My comment wasn't just based what just happened but series of issue and lack of Mazda's support.
 
The first issue with Mazda i had was their shifting is always a problematic. Even when the car was new (4 months old) I had issue where if slow down from 45 down to 40 than it will unnecessary go back to 3rd gear from 4th. This means I could never go to 40 MPH because it will go back and fourth between 3rd and 4th. This really really sucks. In my area there are lot of roads that has 40 MPH speed limit, now i am stuck with going either below 40 OR over 40. What do i tell Police when i get pulled over? LOL
 
I took the car to two different Mazda dealers and as expected they were no help. Instead they told me it has Ford's transmission so those issues are expected. What the hack... One dealer goes on to say, all Mazda have this issue and there is nothing they can do. WoW... great..
 
Also, When my car was newer (<1 year old) I had the same issue couple of times where "o/d off" They looked at the car and found nothing. Bad Customer Service and So So product aren't going to win customers.
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Re: 2000 Mazda Protege LX o/d off issue [funguy123] by ddekleuver
Mar 24, 2009 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: funguy123 (Mar 24, 2009 4:18 pm)

whats up, yea the problem has pretty much progressed worse and worse.. it started out it would shift into 3rd and 4th fine, get up to 50 mph or so, but recently it has struggled, rpm kinda bounces a little i'd say maybe, and I've had to use the optional slap shift to reach 3rd gear. But even in 4th, I'll have the pedal to the metal, no rise in RPM or 30 - 35ish MPH .. as I said though the check engine light has come back on so I'll go get it checked out again.. there was an issue with the 4th cylinder misfiring, but the spark plug is firing fine.. but i'll check the codes and go from there, i'll let you know, thanks man.

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