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Re: '92 bonneville sse tail light problem [seho] by imidazol97
Mar 30, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: seho (Mar 29, 2009 7:06 pm)

You need to see a circuit diagram and find the connectors to check all along the circuit for ground and power when the lights are turned on.
 
One way is buy your own factory service manual which was originally printed by Helm Inc. helminc.com. That'll be about $120 including shipping if I recall.
 
You can buy a used version on eBay. You need to know if it was two volumes or one; many people offer one volume and people pay the price thinking it's the whole thing.
It looks like the SE and SSE have different manuals. I found this one by a GM dealer who's selling some. The picture shows sse and ssei on the cover. AT $23 plus shipping I'd jump on it, my personal opinion.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-Pontiac-Bonneville-GM-Factory-Service-Manual- - - - _W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem130269699926QQitemZ1302- - - - 69699926QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature
 
I searched for pontiac 1992 factory service manual. Remember it looks like this is two volumes based on the picture in the one I found for SSE and it looks like the base model has a different service manual than the high trim models.
 
Some people buy a DVD with supposedly the service manuals for several years. I bought one and can't get it to work on my computers. So be careful of those.
 
A third method is your local library. Many libraries offer all their databases through your home computer. Even if you're a small library they often share with larger ones. But AllData is not available through your home computer access because of the cost structure. But you can go to the local branch and use their public computer to access the AllData for your car. You can print out the pages that show the circuits and the grounds and the connector locations (where they're buried). Or I took a thumb drive and plugged it into the computer and saved the graphics and pages (as html) to the thumb drive. I would save multiple ways in case one one work on your home computer. You also may be able to save to a floppy diskette or CD depending on the library computer setup for security.
 
EDIT: another thought is that the taillights may be a different circuit out of the headlight switch. Do they work on Park setting on the switch? Do the front parking lights work? Check the circuit diagram and them check to see if power is coming from the headlight switch. I believe I've read of a few Bonneville headlights switch problems--the connectors also may heat up due to poor connection and not make good contact due to burns.
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Speed Sensor Replacement by rbullock440
Mar 31, 2009 (7:05 am)
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How do you replace the speed sensor on a '03 Bonne? Traction control, Brake, and ABS lights stay on....
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ABS, Traction Control, & Brake light stay on by rbullock440
Mar 31, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Does this have to do with the speed sensors? How do you replace them?
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fuel pump/filter question by dmg24
Apr 06, 2009 (1:25 pm)
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My son has a 2001 ssei that ran out of gas, and now he can't get it started. He got it started twice, once for about 5 seconds, and the other for about 2 before it shut off. My question is, since it appears to be starving for gas, do you think it may just be the fuel filter that is clogged with gunk from the tank, or could it still be the pump? How difficult, and what is the procedure for replacing both the filter and pump? Could it also be the fuel sensor? Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Re: fuel pump/filter question [dmg24] by imidazol97
Apr 06, 2009 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: dmg24 (Apr 06, 2009 1:25 pm)

I would change the fuel filter, just in case what you suggest happened. But there's a sock over the intake in the tank that catches a lot of stuff. Has the tank had enough fuel put in to prime it? Running low may have overheated the pump; the gasoline serves to cool it.
 
The access is easy. It is a plate on the front of the trunk floor. The pump and intake along with float come out in a geometry puzzle type of movement. There are videos on replacing the thing on Utube. Be sure to get a new seal from a GM dealer based on what people say. If you take it out, I'd suggest a delco replacement. Others have luck with and bad luck with other brands.
 
Does the pump run when the key is turned on?
 
Do you have a fuel pressure gauge to test the pressure?
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Re: fuel pump/filter question [imidazol97] by dmg24
Apr 06, 2009 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 06, 2009 1:41 pm)

Thanks for the help. The pump runs with the key on, as I have tried to "prime" it by letting it kick on for a second or two before I actually try to start it.
 
It has about 4 gallons of gas in it now, and I'm not sure if that is enough or not. And no, I do not have a fuel pressure guage.
 
Is the fuel filter located along the rail close to the tank? I'm going to try that first, and if that isn't it, I'll replace the pump with a Delco. Thanks for your help.
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Re: fuel pump/filter question [dmg24] by imidazol97
Apr 06, 2009 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: dmg24 (Apr 06, 2009 1:59 pm)

I just suggest looking underneath to see where the tubes go that leave the tank. I don't know on which side the fuel filter is.
 
I'd beg, borrow, buy a pressure gauge just to check. The pressure should be in the 40s but I'm not sure how high.
 
Try turning key on for 3 seconds, then off, then on for 3, etc. On the motor is a Schraeder valve that you can press in to check for fuel pressure even without a gauge. Put a towel over the spray direction. Do not do with a hot motor or cigarette, etc. That would check for fuel pressure, but it might be 35 instead of 42 or whatever is required at the and look like a healthy pressure.
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Re: fuel pump/filter question [imidazol97] by dmg24
Apr 06, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 06, 2009 2:10 pm)

I'm not much of a motorhead, but I have a friend coming to help me tomorrow. I'll try to get a fuel pressure gauge before then. Where is the Schraeder valve on the engine? I don't have the car here so I can't go outside and look at it. I'll get my son to try turning the key on for 3 seconds a few times before starting it, like you suggest. Again, thanks for all the help.
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Re: fuel pump/filter question [dmg24] by imidazol97
Apr 06, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: dmg24 (Apr 06, 2009 2:20 pm)

Above the thermostat housing, up on the fuel rail, is a small canister about the size of 35 mm film container. It has a valve on it covered by a plastic cap like a tire valve cap. There you are. Right front upper corner of motor (facing the motor).
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Re: fuel pump/filter question [imidazol97] by dmg24
Apr 06, 2009 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 06, 2009 2:40 pm)

IT'S FIXED!!! I got my son to go out and do the 3 second thing a few times and it started right up!!! Thank you so much for the help! Also, I found a couple of videos on youtube that helped me at least know what the Shraeder valve looks like(along with your help). This forum is awesome. Wish I could buy you a beer or two for saving me some cash. Thanks again.

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