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#1135 of 2268 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSei
Jul 02, 2003 (5:45 am)
90k miles. Teal.
Took car for 90k service. Same dealer and same service person for the past 6+ years.
Was told that one of the rear shocks are leaking. They replaced them with Monroe shocks since GM had discontinued the electronic shocks which can be controlled using the Perform Ride and Normal Ride buttons next to the shift lever. Did anyone else go through this one? The shocks got so stiff in a couple of hours, i felt that i was drving an empty u-haul truck..jumping all over the road. Went back to the dealer. Was told the monroe's shocks rubber had gone back into the shock and twisted itself. They showed me the shocks and the damaged line on the rubber. They said the compressor for inflating the shocks or whatever is not working fine and needs replacing. I told them that it was fine till you diagnosed that the shock had started to leak. I did not find any symptoms in the past 7 years. They replaced the shocks with new monroe shocks and it seems ok now. The ride command switches are disabled now. I can live with that.
At the same time, the radio quit on me. If i rotate the knob the volume would come up, but, would die down gradually in a few seconds. Asked in outside shops for aftermarket. They said the steering wheel controls will not work with any aftermarket radios. So, asked the dealer. They said that they would put in a refurbished piece for $375. (The stereo with a single CD player and manual equalizers - exactly the same as my previoius one - i had no issues with that). Done. And, now, the stereo holds the volume for AM radio. But, for FM radio and the CDs, the volume would increase automatically from the begining and the radio would quit after some time.Took it to the dealer. They said it was the amplifier problem and ordered a new one. Yesterday i was told to come over and get the new amp. Yesterday evening i was told that when they connect the new AMP it still does the same thing. But when they disconnect the amp, the stereo works fine. I checked and it seems to be true. They said that PONTIAC has information about the stereo,but, they do not have any specific information about the amp. There is a seperate Music/Base gain knob below the stereo (A 5 inch long plastic plate with a moveable knob) which increases the base. That one does not work without the amp. The dealership said that they have to field test to figure out what is going on and they (and i) have to wait till they can locate any bonny with the same kind of stereo and base gain moveable knob below the stereo. Too much time and frustration for a problem that looks so silly. Any information on this issue will be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the really long post.
Jul 02, 2003 (7:34 am)
My parents have a '93 SSEi with the exact same radio as you're mentioning here. It has the manual equalizer controls and the gain slider control right under the stereo. The FM band on this radio has seen better days, and it will barely pick up anything anymore. The CD player quit working correctly 2 years ago, and the power antenna died in the up position about 4 years ago. The buttons on the steering wheel to control the radio now only half function, it feels like the buttons have slipped off the contact patch below, but not sure. They were going to trade off the bonny about a month ago, only to find that the dealer could only give them $2,000 for it trade in. Mom said "it's worth more than that to me, I'll keep driving it." It now has about 110k on it.
#1137 of 2268 1badsidekick bonnie
Jul 02, 2003 (7:46 am)
They might do better selling it individually.
Lots of 92-95 Bonnevilles and LeSabres in our area
are showing up in the hands of owners who put what looks like $2000 worth of chrome wheels on them and all kinds of customization. Probably their own radio which makes the radio problem
If it's been an import honda or toyota I probably would have been facing some major expense for maintainence and would have spent a fortune at dealer on 30k checkups required and had a sludge problem or trans problem.
But I had little expense out of the 93. Lots of little irritations with things that didn't work part of the time -- had ground problem with connection at left of driver's seat under carpet. but had changed spark wires with original equipment at 120K for second time.
That group of car is good for 150K plus with good care in the past. Engine and trans were great on car I traded with 150K on it. Car acted good for 200K. My wife made me trade it. She got a Crimson Red LeSabre... with chrome wheels and Michelins. She twisted my arm. But I still miss the green 93.
Jul 07, 2003 (5:40 am)
I was told of a common problem with the 92-95 bonnevilles that was transmission related. We also know someone who has a '92 SSEi and had to replace the engine a few years ago. So far this one has been pretty good, but it hasn't been without problems by far. It has required a new alternator every 20k-40k miles, the latest only lasting 8 months. Put on in August of '02, replaced in May of '03. We were wise and bought from Adanvanced Auto Parts, with a lifetime warranty. Now I just walk in with original receipt in hand, and walk out with a new alternator. Thank god it's easy to get to! Other problems have been several water pumps, a starter, lots of electrical issues like malfunctioning power door locks, windows and the like, plus about 30k miles ago the ABS/Traction light came on, and I think it's sensor related. Besides all of that, it rides and drives very smoothly, and is very comfortable. It is also by far the "nicest" vehicle my parents have ever had.
Jul 07, 2003 (6:02 am)
Re the Bonnie locks and windows. Pull up the carpet beside the drivers seat next to the door. You should find a boxed in area with the grounds from the dash area coming together for commond ground ( I think it's G200 on the schematics ).
Tighten and clean those so they make good contact. I was told that will fix the problems coming from dash like AC manual style control cutting in and out, door locks not working at times, windows may ground there too.
I looked it up in my 93 lesabre manual but traded the car before I got around to working on the box.
What's the common trans problem that 92-95s have?
#1140 of 2268 re: Bonnie tranny probs
Jul 07, 2003 (6:06 am)
I've heard of several people who have had to replace the tranny completely. I don't know exactly what the problem was, but it was fatal to the trans.
#1141 of 2268 Good bye, bonnie
Jul 13, 2003 (2:30 pm)
Drove from nj to az my 1992 SE. Stuck in Denver, CO, as bearings/inserts, reportedly broken. Got knocking noise from the engine...Was suggested to look for another car here, rather than fixing it (replacing engine with junk one plus labor $1,500 plus no guarantee it will run), perhaps will look for used import pickup truck. Anyone willing to purchase it for parts here in Colorado? Original Aluminium wheels and BFGoodRich tires(20K only) , almost new OEM windshield, just replaced brake booster with rebuilt one, cranksensor 1 month ago, oxygen too. Clean interior, nice chairs. Let me know. Dent in the driver's door and cracked LH mirror. It was a comfortable car...
#1142 of 2268 Popping sound in floorboard/rearend
Jul 14, 2003 (3:59 am)
Intermittently on normal turns, and or hard acceleration/braking I hear a popping sound that sounds like its coming from multiple areas, i.e. pillar between doors on drivers side, shock area on drivers side, and middle of the rear end. I have had it in several times and nothing turns up wrong. It is not an interior noise as I have taken the trunk and most of the back seat area apart, and it still does it. I can not reproduce the sound when the car is sitting still. I saw a similar post in message 534. Any answers? This is a 2002 Bonneville SE.
#1143 of 2268 Overheating Problem
Jul 14, 2003 (5:17 am)
Hi all, "the user formerly known as 1badsidekick" here...the parent's '93 SSEi is having a fit again. My mom took it to Gatlinburg TN this past weekend, and on the way up into the mountains, it overheated, and wouldn't start again for a while. She finally got it restarted, and didn't drive it the rest of the time they were up there. She and her sister got in it to come home yesterday, and the thing was heating all the way home (about 4 hours, 230 miles). She kept the climate control on 90 the whole way, and considering the temperature outside was 87, they were a little warm. Now, the question is, what is causing this? The fans at the radiator seemed to work intermittantly, but they did work. I know the engine has to reach a certain temp before they kick in. What else could this be? Thermostat? Water pump? Any help is appreciated. I'm going to try to get it to the garage today for them, but I'd like to get it in there and halfway know what to expect, rather than going in there with a blindfold on. (Even though the mechanics at our garage are good, they tend to "throw parts" at the problem, rather than knowing immediately what it is.) Any advice??
#1144 of 2268 paint problem/recall on new style bonneville?
Jul 17, 2003 (4:38 pm)
my 2001 has developed bare spots at the bottomcorner near the rear door closing. I thought it was weird becuse both sides were the same. car has only 30k on it.
I talked to someone who has the same yr and his was the same. He is getting his repaired by the same dealer that I bought mine from. They told him all he had to do was pu on the pontiac "mud" flaps and they would paint that area. they told him they had several people complain that there bonneville was doingt the same.
I called the dealer and they said, at first, We have not heard anything about anyone else having problems and i sounded like a defect. When I gave them the name of the guy who was going to get his repainted without any hassles, the played dumb and said stop by and we'll take a look at it.
My wife stopped by today and the guy's car that was to be fix was sitting outside ready to be picked up. my wife said it looked like they patched just the area where the paint was of without sanding it. It was uneven in the spot that had been bare. She went inside and went through the same bull..
the same that they have not had any complants about the bare paint spots in those certain areas. She then said.. well... there's one right out side that you just did! the lady said which car? & my wide NAMED the guy who owned it.
they again backslid and went on to tell her that they have have several people complain about that area losing paint prematurely.
now we have to take it back again when the service manager is there.
SO If your newer style have paint coming off just behind the rear doors, make sure you get it to a dealer so that this problem is recognized and something is done for everyone without going through a HASSLE. If you need pics of the area that is in question, email me at dave11budweiser.com , I will snap a few and send them.