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Store Bought Waxes Part II (No Zaino Posts)

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Murphy Continues to be Alive and Well by laurasdada
Nov 22, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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Happy Thanksgiving to all! 60+ degrees in Boston today so before we headed out to relatives I gave the TL a Z7 wash (not enough time to Z6 after). Cleaned up the wash stuff and myself and the family headed north. Upon arrival at destination, I noticed that a rather large bird (probably a Turkey, revenge no doubt!) had decided to compliment the Zaino shine by leaving a non-color matching splatter on the hood. And, of course, it rained while we feasted at the in-laws. Bright sun at my home when washing, rain 30 miles north... And a Happy Turkey to you, Mr. Murphy...
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Re: waxes [jster] by beancounter
Jan 01, 2008 (11:24 pm)
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Replying to: jster (Apr 04, 2000 1:51 am)

It has always been my understanding that it is the paint that needs to be able to expand and contract with the changing seasons and temp extremes. Polymers do nothing to help the paint retain this ability. Only a wax feeds the paint with the necessary oils. Once the paint loses this ability to flex, that's when you start to see the problems of paint cracking. This characteristic was always a part of the advertising claims of many of the better waxes on the market. Not sure if it still is, but I've never seen a polymer make that claim. Today, it seems to be all about the shine, and what product lasts the longest. Maybe people should think "wax" if their main goal is paint protection, and "polymers" for shine protection.
 
I own a 2000 Merc Sable that has 216,000 miles on it, and has never been in a garage a day in its life. It sees all 4 seasons where I live. I have always used Meguire products, and the paint and finish look like new. (Just bought a new Ford 500, so I know what a new car finish looks like!)
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Blue Poly and Spray Paint Vandals by phantomv
Jan 16, 2008 (11:44 am)
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New to the thread but have this to say. In 1986 I finally got a new 5 Series BMW (be careful what you wish for - a disaster of a car) after having owned several Hondas with no [problem. My insurance agent told me one reason comp was so high was that BMW's, Mercedes, etc. were more prone to vandalism. I "waxed" the car with Blue Coral Blue Poly.
 
On evening we went to the local mall. When I parked the car there were some kids nearby in a pick up truck and I had the "gut" feeling about somethig about to go wrong, but ignored it. WRONG. When we came out? Kids gone - but our Champagne colored BMW? Spray painted with black spray paint all over the hood, both sides, the headlights, windshield, trunk - there was not a body panel untouched. I was sick. Manage to drive home after reporting to police. Next morning I got some DuPont Simoniz Polish and started to try to remove the spray paint. With some elbow grease, it ALL COME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I was shocked to say the least. I HAD to give credit to the Blue Poly - and have used it ever since. Wrote to Blue Coral and complimented them and they sent me some of their other products to have for free. So, not only did Blue Poly give a great shine - it also protected the car from the paint penetrating. Would not have believed it if I had not done it my self.
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Need some opinions by oldfarmer50
Feb 02, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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I recently purchased a new car and I'll wax it myself when the weather warms up. In the meantime I'd like your opinion on hand wax jobs you get at the detail shops.
 
Is there any questions I should ask to separate the good shops from the bad ones?
 
There is a local car wash that has a detail shop who say they will hand wax your car for $59.99.
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Re: waxes [beancounter] by 1racefan
Feb 04, 2008 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: beancounter (Jan 01, 2008 11:24 pm)

"Polymers do nothing to help the paint retain this ability. Only a wax feeds the paint with the necessary oils."
 
Synthetic protectants (sealants) also expand and contract. Companies like Meguiar's produce waxes, as well as synthetic sealants, and none are damaging to paint.
 
"This characteristic was always a part of the advertising claims of many of the better waxes on the market. Not sure if it still is, but I've never seen a polymer make that claim."
 
A good synthetic protectant isn't going to lead to paint failure. Otherwise, a company like Meguiar's wouldn't make one.
 
"Maybe people should think "wax" if their main goal is paint protection, and "polymers" for shine protection."
 
Actually, if the main goal is protection, most synthetic protectants (sealants) last longer than waxes. You mention that you like Meguiar's products. Call the phone # on the back of the bottle, and ask them what their longest lasting protectant is. They will tell you it is the NXT 2.0 (synthetic sealant). Typically, carnouba waxes look nicer on darker vehicles, but the durability is never as good as with a sealant.
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Waterspots by 94hawkskin
Feb 19, 2008 (10:48 am)
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We recently took delivery of a Metallic Blue 2008 GMC Sierra 1500. I washed it this weekend with Meguiar's Gold Class Shampoo and when drying it I noticed a lot of waterspots. These waterspots are like black streaks in the paint. I couldn't get them off. They are only noticeable when you get within about a foot of the vehicle. Can I get rid of these spots?
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Need Expert Opinion by oldfarmer50
Feb 19, 2008 (11:40 am)
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I decided to try Mother's 3 step system which requires you to use a cleaner followed by a sealant/glaze and then carnauba wax. If I want maximum shine and protection can I apply multiple coats of either the sealer or the wax? Which would give better shine, more sealant or more wax?
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Re: Waterspots [94hawkskin] by tallman1
Feb 19, 2008 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: 94hawkskin (Feb 19, 2008 10:48 am)

These waterspots are like black streaks in the paint.
 
Hmmm, like black streaks? Water spots are usually white or light tan. Where they on the car when you bought it?
 
You can try clay and then a very light polish to see if they can be removed. Put a wax or sealant on after that.
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Re: Need Expert Opinion [oldfarmer50] by tallman1
Feb 19, 2008 (10:57 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Feb 19, 2008 11:40 am)

Mother's 3 step system
 
I've never used Mother's but you should be able to apply multiple coats of wax or sealant. More wax would give a better shine.

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