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#595 of 5207 Alternator Troubles 1990 Civic Sedan DX
Jun 06, 2001 (10:22 pm)
Goodness. I am now on my third alternator. I had the brushes replaced in the original in Dec. 1997, then in August 1998 I had to purchase a remanufactured alternator, as the repaired one went out. Finally, last week capped my big year in Honda reapairs. A surprise stranding with yet another needed replacement of an alternator. I have only driven 30k miles since I bought the Civic in 1997. Is there anything that causes an alternator's brushes go go bad? Perhaps it is just a ploy by remanufacturers to make you keep coming back for 70/per hour honda repairmen and 200 dollar alternators!?
Never replaced clutch and I have 155k
Just got a new head gasket though, ugh.
I still dig my civic, but I might have to begin the hunt for a newer one if this keeps up (1100 in repairs in last 5 months).
Any word on alternator troubles would be great!
Also, I have noted the following recurring 1990 Civic Sedan problems:
1) They all seem to have condensation in the headlamps (funny clips to try to unhook the glass cover from the plastic, but what do you do to separate them after you get the clips off?
2) Almost all have rear taillights that fill up with water after the seals go bad around the lights.
3) Trunks usually leak
4) CV joints go out after 100k miles
5) Axels require replacement after 100k miles (at different times)
#596 of 5207 Response to Brorjace
Jun 07, 2001 (3:48 am)
Yep..8000+ cars recalled is a very small U.S recall. Bet Ford didn't have those numbers with the Focus.
Yeah I have heard that Honda's rev high and the RPM's will climb high before the auto tranny shifts. My 2001 Civic seems to do this but I have never thought it was a problem, it just felt normal and the engine purrs beautifully. So all Honda's hit high RPM's before they shift in Auto? This clears up an argument I had with a friend who said it hurts and destroys the engine. I told him yeah..that must be why all you see is old Honda's on the road.
#597 of 5207 8000 recall
Jun 07, 2001 (6:09 am)
The only reason Honda is recalling only 8000 Civics is because there were only a small percentage of Civics imported from Japan. Ford has sold over a million Focus worldwide and so its recalls will obviously be larger. Also, the Focus came in ahead of the Civic in JD Power quality survey, which is certainly surprising. Although this survey is just one indication, it does show that either the Civic's quality is slipping or Ford is finally building a competitive small car, probably a combination of both. As a Honda Civic owner, I have been disappointed with the G7 Civic and the survey rating was another blow to the Civic's status.
#598 of 5207 I don't give much weight
Jun 07, 2001 (7:24 am)
to those JD Powers numbers because they weigh all problems equally. Erratic gas guages and radio code problems are in a different league from some of the issues with earlier Focuses. I had to buy a car last month, and it had to have an auto transmission. Weighing reliability, gas mileage, and passenger room led me to choose the G7 Civic. Had the next gen Toyota Corolla been available, I would have gone for it in a heartbeat - based on experiences with a Publica in Japan and a Celica here. So far, the Honda seems competent and I have no complaints. It's a new model and there will be problems. If Honda resolves them, and they are minor, then I can live with that.
#599 of 5207 My 2-cents on Civic
Jun 07, 2001 (12:29 pm)
Considering I just bought a 2001 EX with Auto. a week before the JDP survey, the results are certainly discouraging. I have been reading all the postings here prior deciding on the car. Therefore, I am fully aware of all the complaints regarding this new model (radio, gas gauge, etc.). I am looking at these problems two ways. On one hand, they may be minor issues and do not affect the long term reliability of the vehicle. However, they are still problems/ nuisances that the customers do not want to deal with (especially based on Honda's reputations). So far, I am happy with my purchase. The only comment is the engine is fairly noisy at low gear.
I also did quite a bit of research before buying, comparing Civic to Mazda Protege, Nissan Sentra, and Hyundai Elentra. Even though Civic is the most expensive one in the group, there were other considerations that were particularly important to me personally,
1. Sentra - could not find one with ABS. The dealer even tried to bad-mouth ABS.
2. Elantra - dealer was unfriendly. Also, Service department does not open on Saturday.
3. Protege - Again, does not offer Saturday service.
To me, safety, reliability and convenience are the most important factors. I think we all have our own criteria in deciding what car to purchase. Hopefully, the decision will be correct.
#600 of 5207 harsh transmission by hai from va
Jun 07, 2001 (12:55 pm)
can you give me more info about your odometer what happened ? what was actually replaced ? I have a 92 civic and every so often the speedometer goes to 60 then down to 0 stops for a couple miles
then works fine again can any body help me??
honda says they can't check it unless it is stopped when they check it!!!
#601 of 5207 A Word About J.D. Power Survey
Jun 07, 2001 (6:28 pm)
I wouldn't put too much faith in the survey. I think the buying public is more a testament to "quality". Sure, no car is perfect. Before deciding on the Civic, I looked at the Sunfire, Echo, Focus. Out of all of those the quality in the Civic was the best. It was the most refined.
The only complaint I have is about the fuel gauge. The empty light comes on when there is still around 10-12L of gas left.
If you like to purchase cars based on a survey, fine. I would rather test-drive and look at cars myself to decide what I want to buy.
Jun 07, 2001 (7:23 pm)
Everyone has a problem with any survey that anyone comes up with. Especially if they don't agree with the results. But what other measurement is there? The bottom line is that no matter what the problem was...it was there and someone complained about it.
The proof will be seen in about three to five years when the Civic proves it's problems were assembly line glitches and the others problems were engineering defects.
582- You could have been hit by a rock or someone may have got you with a pellet gun.
snowman-A 2K Neon is a 2002 Crapon. You'll be lucky if it's still running and it won't be worth fixing if it's not.
Jun 07, 2001 (7:27 pm)
Gee, I've never heard of a Honda having that much trouble with a silly alternator. After the 2nd set of brushes failed, I'd have asked for a free replacement ... or gone aftermarket for replacement.
I am disappointed with the latest Civic when compared to its predecessors (I have a '95 Coupe). I'll be keeping my eye on the Civic as I'm thinking of buying an RSX in the next year or two. For those that don't know, the RSX (formerly Integra) is based heavily on the Civic.
When looking at JD Powers' surveys, keep in mind the manufacturers pay for them so JDP can make them say anyhting they want to. They are merely awards-for-hire.
--- Bror Jace
#604 of 5207 JD Power for hire
Jun 07, 2001 (7:33 pm)
I guess Lexus must really be rich then.
Maybe it's the battery or the wiring and NOT the alternator. Usually when I need to change out the alternator I find that the battery has been damaged.