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#4839 of 5207 timing belt woes
Mar 25, 2006 (7:07 pm)
I have a 1998 Honda Civic LX. No problems with the usual maintenance. Had the 90000 mile service done which is included a timing belt, water pump, seals and even new plugs. Since the service the car has a vibration that is quite noticeable. It shakes rear view mirror and makes the muffler rattle. I feel it through the wheel and in my feet. It is worse with the car stopped at idle in gear. I have returned twice and they tell me there is nothing wrong. They readjusted the engine mounts and suggested I may need new engine mounts. The car continues to vibrate and there is some engine oil forming below the timing cover and the pan. I have done three mileage checks and it appears my mileage dropped from 33mpg avg to 30 mpg. They tell me if the timing belt was off only one notch the car would barely run. They have no solution for the problem and the ink on my $800 check is long dried. Any ideas out there? ejbarton
#4840 of 5207 Re: timing belt woes [ejbarton]
Mar 25, 2006 (9:04 pm)
Can you get a 2nd opinion and take it to a different dealer?
#4841 of 5207 Re: timing belt woes [ejbarton]
Mar 25, 2006 (9:31 pm)
the dealers pulling your timing belt you can retard and advance the timing belt up to 3 teeth on the belt and the car will still run ...sounds like they did a bad job and are trying to pass the buck without having to do any extra work take it to a smog center to check the timing and they should be able to give you a print out of the degree of advance or retard that its at now and that will give you a little paper trail ...that should help...give it to the dealer and have them make it right
#4842 of 5207 Re: timing belt woes [944boy]
Mar 26, 2006 (12:48 pm)
Thanks for the info. I have done the idle speed timing check with the system jumper as explained in the Haynes manual. Warm and in park the idle speed is 740rpm and the timing is on the red middle timing mark. So at least this simple test says it is ok. Can the test you mentioned tell more than the timing check? We live in podunk and don't have pollution check requirements.
I actually have done two of these Civic timing belts with my son in the past. Well he is all grown up now and I am getting older. It was great bonding with him but it just wasn't worth it so I "took it in". Man do I wish I would have done it myself at this point.
I've done all my own oil changes and the pan was dry before the service. Well I am taking it back because it is obvious to me now that the crack shaft seal is leaking as the wetness is coming at the timing cover. They will have to take it all apart again so maybe they will find something.
The shop that did the service actually has a good reputation in my area. Foreign car specialists you know. I'm just having a bad experience. Do you think there is anything in their suggestion of replacing the engine mounts? It didn't vibrate like this before the service so I have a hard time thinking the mounts suddenly went bad.
Mar 27, 2006 (8:08 am)
I have a honda civic 95, mileage 140k and expereincing a strange problem. I go for regular oil changes. The oil presuure gets low after every 200 miles, and I have to refill the oil. There are no leak spots where the car is parked, at home or in office, there is no smoke or smell that might give a hint of burning of oil. I took it to Jiffy Lubes and they suggested that the oil might be leaking from rear main seal or oil pan case gasket might need to be replaced. I donot have any idea what should I do. Pointers are welcome.
#4844 of 5207 Re: Engine Oil Leak [visheetal]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Mar 27, 2006 (9:12 am)
Have a cylinder leakdown test done on the engine. As for the possibility of a leak---- A leak that bad would spray oil all over your car's undercarriage and would be easy to spot on a lift or all over the driveway.
#4845 of 5207 2003 HONDA CIVIC EX
Mar 28, 2006 (5:26 am)
I bought this car new. It is less than 3 yrs. old, 32,000 miles. Without any pattern or consistency it will act like it does not want to start, and when going very slow starts to shake. It also may do it at a higher speed. I just had it at the dealer on Friday, 3/24, and they could not duplicate the symptons. It ran fine over the weekend, but took a couple of tries to get it started this A.M.
Am taking back to dealer on Monday - again....this car has had several nuisance problems, ex., air bag light on, door lock not working, replace air conditioner condenser (500.00) at 5,500 miles due to a "stone" that that pierced the "shield"(?), and now this.
Is there any recommendation as to what to ask for if the car is not "sick" when the mechanic looks at it? I don't want to pay for parts and labor that is not necessary or does not resolve the problem. The car has always been to the dealer for all services.
Thanks very much for your help.
#4846 of 5207 Re: Engine Oil Leak [Mr_Shiftright]
Mar 28, 2006 (9:18 am)
I took it to two mechanics yesterday, both of them confirmed that the engine is burning oil, but they had different opinions. One of them said that since there are no visible leaks outside, engine might have to be opened and then looked upon .. better replace the engine.
The 2nd guy suggested that the valve heads might have gone wrong, he will have to look at it. The estimate cost of repairs is around $1000 - $1500. What should I do?
As for the car they said that I can drive it with no issues just keep on putting the oil.
#4847 of 5207 Re: Engine Oil Leak [visheetal]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Mar 28, 2006 (9:37 am)
Well if they haven't done a cylinder leakdown test they are just guessing.
It could be as simple as valve stem seals (little rubber seals that go around the stems of the valves---this generally does not require engine disassembly of any kind).
But the leakdown test will show you what is wearing out.
Mar 28, 2006 (11:31 am)
how hard is it to change a water pump and is there any way someone may be able to describe it to me in steps i have a honda del sol 1.5 liter and on the head it says that it is a 16 valve... i have changed the head gasket 1 and changed the termostat 2 i got a new sensor and a new cap for the radiator i beleave that it is the water pump but not positive correct me if im wrong thanks ryan