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#3408 of 5207 Re: suspension question [gogiboy]
Jan 31, 2005 (5:27 am)
I'm hoping some other Civic owners may be able to comment on my suspension woes.
I have my 1994 Civic EX (113K) at a local mechanic because of persistent noise coming from both the front and back suspension--the typical squeaks and creaks that make it sound like the springs need lubrication. His recommendation: replace all 36 bushings to the tune of $1300 parts and labor. Needless to say my jaw dropped although I can hardly complain about the Civic as this is the first major expense in 11 years of ownership.
I'm wondering if this is typical and whether the price seems reasonable? I bought the car new and never have abused it and I don't live on or off of dirt roads.
He's also recommending a timing belt/water pump and seals due to significant oil leakage. I had the timing belt replaced at around 60K by the Honda dealer, but the $250 job never covered the water pump or seals. This mechanic has a good local reputation, which is more than I can say for the Honda dealership. His price for the timing belt/water pump seals and labor is $500.
Thanks for any advice or tips.
Timing belt is due at 120K on your car, we well as the water pump. $500 is about what dealer charges. The parts will cost you $100, everything else is labor.
36 bushings for $1300 is kind of pricey, but OEM parts are not cheap. Look into urethane aftermarket bushings from a reputable supplier. Labor is still going to be a major part of the bill.
#3409 of 5207 Re: suspension question [blueiedgod]
Jan 31, 2005 (9:50 am)
Thanks for the reply. I read a lot of your posts and have a great deal of respect for your knowledge about Civics. You have definitely reassured me and I hope to eventually squeeze out 200K or more miles on my Civic.
#3410 of 5207 Re: problem with locking system and/or alarm [blueiedgod]
Jan 31, 2005 (12:03 pm)
Thanks blueiedgod for your ideas. I e-mailed the service manager about the symptoms and he is basically saying the same thing you are. I am supposed to bring my car in the get my cruise control actuator replaced and they will switch from the passive to active mode. Thank you!
#3411 of 5207 High Performance Headlight Bulbs on Civic?
Jan 31, 2005 (2:53 pm)
Has anyone tried the high performance headlight bulbs on the Civic (white light)? Is it acceptable/safe to switch from regular halogen to this? Please advise.
#3412 of 5207 Re: suspension question [gogiboy]
Jan 31, 2005 (3:27 pm)
Actually. on a 1994 the timing belt change interval is 90,000 miles. If you are going in there anyway to change the seals I would replace the belt at any mileage. If may have oil on it which will cause it to fail.
#3413 of 5207 Re: High Performance Headlight Bulbs on Civic? [jlim1]
Jan 31, 2005 (7:52 pm)
I ran the Silvanias in my 94, worked great, and no one ever flashed me as if I had my hibeams on accidently. Made night driving much easier.
Feb 01, 2005 (9:51 am)
just inherited an '87 CRX, 140K, running well but hardly driven the last three years or so. It is too bad - seems there are no dedicated CRX threads here at Edmunds. Was just wondering if anyone knew a good source (maybe internet or something?) for OEM body parts - this car has a nosepiece and front fenders that appear to be made out of something like fiberglass, all are cracked, the nosepiece itself has a big ugly chunk missing. Seems worth replacing because the rest of the car is in such good shape - all the metal panels are undamaged, and since the car spent most of its life garaged, even the paint is in excellent shape.
This car is so great - I love crank windows and manual steering!
#3415 of 5207 Re: suspension question [isellhondas]
Feb 01, 2005 (10:11 am)
Thanks for the update. That's why it is so disappointing to have to replace it at 113K--even though it was replaced early at 65K.
I've washed my hands of the local Honda dealer after they tried to sell us an $1100 catalytic converter despite the fact that I told the service manager that I'd run over a log the night before. Took it to a local muffler chain and their tech diagnosed it as a bent heat shield that needed to be tack welded. Price $10!
So it doesn't surprise me that my previous timing belt replacement didn't cover the water pump and seals. The current mechanic said exactly what you said, which is that it was almost certainly leaking oil onto the timing belt.
This local dealership is nothing like the one you work for isell. When we bought the Civic in 94 is was a friendly, family run place that was low-pressure and only sold Hondas. After changing hands a couple of times it has become one of those screamer ad places that sells and services Hondas and Chrysler stuff out of the same building/lot. They seem more interested in moving used vehicles of uncertain provenance that are towed in for weekend quick-sales Quite disappointing, really. The bent heat shield was actually the third and final straw--although I guess I'm still paying for their ineptitude on the timing belt.
Doesn't change my feeling about high quality of the Honda brand. My wife and I also love our Toyotas.
Feb 01, 2005 (5:52 pm)
thanks a lot! That place has everything in stock I need.