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#1273 of 5207 2002 Civic LX Problems
May 30, 2002 (8:50 pm)
I have a 2002 Civic LX sedan that was purchased in October 2001. I have about 9500 miles on it but I am having a few problems with it that I am finding upsetting. I sold my 1990 Civic DX to buy this new one and it had 189,000 miles on it, so I expected a lot of my new car.
I have to say that I have baby'd this car and have had only oil changes to this point as far as maintenance is concerned. At about 8,000 miles I started to notice that the car was hestitating when I started in the morning or after it had been sitting for a while. I live in northeast so most of the times when it would sit it was cold, so I thought maybe the warmer weather would change things. I was wrong the problem only got worse.
In addition to the starting issue, I have noticed that the car seems to rev extremely high before the automatic trans decides to shift gears. Also the exhaust seems to be getting louder. Cosmetically I have 2 bigs paint chips right down to the sheet metal on my hood and many on the front grill, not to mention that my factory brand new windshield wipers actually scratched my windshield! Aside from the tell-tale 88-91 body rust that my old civic suffered from the paint was never chipped like it is on my new car??? I am wondering what has happend to Honda's quality?
The car has been at the dealership for 2 days now while they try work out all these problems. They are replacing my windshield acknowledging that the wipers caused the damage. They have told me the starting problem was been present in Accords but mine is the first Civic they had seen. They contact Honda Engineers and were told that the starting issue is due to the valves being too tight?? SO they have adjusted the valves and are holding the car overnight to test the start in the morning. They still have no answer for me as to why the engines is revving so high before shifting or why the exhaust is loud.
I have to say that I am not pleased with the list of problems I am having so early on in this cars life, I was planning on having this car for 6-10 years thining it would pass the test with flying colors. I am also having problems with my local dealerships because I didn't buy the car from them. Has anyone else been having these issues. I went 45 minutes away so that I could get the car for $200 over invoice plus $60 application fee, none of my local dealers would budge. I still thought I would get good service but it doesn't seem to be the case. I was thinking of contacting Honda corporate about this.
Sorry for the long post but I wanted to know if anyone else has been having these problems and what your dealerships have done for you.
Thanks for any info.
May 31, 2002 (6:36 am)
"why the engines is revving so high before shifting"
Honda's "normally" have high-rev engines, that's where the power is. Where is it shifting exactly (in gears/RPMs)? It will also rev higher in the a.m. until it warms (thank you EPA).
#1275 of 5207 Help!! Civic probs: rough acceleration; ratchety clutch, hard start
Jun 06, 2002 (9:19 pm)
Help Auburn63, brorjace, everybody!!
2000 Civic 5 speed, ~ 26k, regularly maintained. Problems:
1. Most troubling: Since I first bought my "old man" car, when accelerating, it feels like something is pushing on the car and holding it back, until something kicks in, and the car finally accerlerates like it should. I am not expecting the car to go 0-60 in 2 seconds, but the delayed acceleration is not normal. My sister's 12 y.o 110k Corolla has smoother pick-up than my Honda. Dealer could not find anything. Ideas?
2. Since I first bought the car, I infrequently encounter excessive engine churning when I try to start the car. Only seems to happen within 1-6 hours after the car has been driven, not after car has been sitting overnight. Again, dealer found nothing.
3. Lately, clutch is making ratchet-like sound after city driving for 8-10 miles. Happens when pedal is pushed down and released. Dealer oiled it; no change. Clutch performs ok, just noisy.
I plan to go to another dealer before warranty is up, but I would love to know where to tell the dealer to look to diagnose/cure the problems and recognize any dealer b.s. All help is greatly appreciated!
Jun 07, 2002 (6:38 pm)
For problem 1, have you tried a differant brand of gas? Maybe even try a tank or two of Techron fuel additive or a fuel injection service. Other than that cant think of anything.
have no idea on other two problems without being able to check it out. Possibly a TW sensor on the hot restart but thats a long shot..
#1277 of 5207 Honda Civic and CARGO WEIGHT
Jun 09, 2002 (8:52 am)
thinking of buying a 2002 LX auto w/a/c.
I'm a musician and will be transporting roughly 300 - 400lbs of cargo in the trunk and some in the back seat -- -- on a regular basis.
No, I don't want a truck or van.
Question: can the Civic 1.7 liter engine handle carrying this weight, or will it be constantly straining and thus could wear out fast?
I guess the weight is about the same as transporting 3 adult passengers in addition to the adult male driver, all the time.
Anybody have any experience to share?
Jun 09, 2002 (11:24 am)
Regarding your paint chipping issue, this is a very common problem on almost ALL new cars these days. People on a Mazda board I go to have a huge beef with this issue. New cars these days seem to have very thin paint and clear coats compared to older cars, so I wouldn't worry about it. It may look nicer than before, but I agree that it is more fragile.
Jun 11, 2002 (7:36 pm)
3-400 lbs should be fine for your LX. Your mileage might to down a bit, but it shouldn't overly strain your engine.
#1280 of 5207 Igloomaster -- Cargo Weight
Jun 12, 2002 (7:36 pm)
400 pounds of cargo plus the driver is borderline for the Civic. Check the GVW label. However, if 300 pounds or more of the load are in the trunk, handling would be poor and the rear suspension will be almost bottomed. But you need not speculate - try it. Load up a demonstrator, and give it a try over the types of roads you expect to travel. If the rear suspension performs OK, you could go ahead with this choice at the expense of some wheel alignment difficulty, poorer tire life and the handling deficiencies which you already evaluated. Engine, transmission, brakes, and other systems should tolerate this load OK if you are within the GVW limitation.
#1281 of 5207 Clacking engine noise
Jun 14, 2002 (9:42 pm)
Hi all. I have a '96 LX Sedan, auto trans.
My problem is on a cold start, a clacking noise (knock? ping? Not sure) comes from the engine for a few minutes until the engine warms up. Sometimes the noise is loud, sometimes soft; it speeds up with the RPM of the engine. It happens during idle as well as acceleration, although it can be louder during acceleration. When the engine warms up the noise disappears.
It happens only in cold or cool weather, mostly 55 degrees F or below. If it's 80-degree weather: no noise.
I thought it was maybe an oil problem, but I took it into the dealer last winter (left it overnight so they'd have a cold start) and they dismissed it as "normal fuel injector noise."
But the problem persists, and it's gradually getting worse each winter. It didn't happen at all for the car's first three years or so.
I've kept up with all scheduled maintenance. Oil is 5W30, as per owner's manual. Level is good.
Any ideas? Car is in fine shape otherwise. Should I have the fuel injectors cleaned?
Jun 15, 2002 (5:39 pm)
Sounds like you may need a valve adjustment, have you ever had this done? It should be done every 30,000 miles.