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Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2

3505 messages,  Last post on Mar 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

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Re: standard motor oil vs. synthetic [paulco] by texases
Apr 25, 2008 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: paulco (Apr 25, 2008 12:11 pm)

It may be some wire/hose/etc. go knocked loose during the whole oil change/dipstick tube thing. I can think of no oil-change specific thing that would do what you describe, sythetic oil or dino-based.
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"the man thing" by tired_old_dave
Apr 26, 2008 (7:50 am)
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while changing channels with the tv remote - is it really a guy thing like comedians say - caught an ion life show. Oil - castrol - bmw race cars, not attacking bob's guru - but the bmw team member comment was, paraphrasing, thin oil has shown to produce 5hp or more, but wouldn't want that in a personal car and try to do 100k kilometers, not good for the bearings.
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Getting ready for the first oil change... by wtd44
May 07, 2008 (3:49 pm)
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I about went crazy trying to locate the oil filter on our brand new 2009 Vibe AWD. Eventually, I jacked it up, set jack stand in place, and crawled under. I quickly saw that one front corner of the oil pan was "pushed in" and the oil filter occupied that corner, sitting there where I would usually expect to see just another regular angular corner in the pan! And this Toyota engine uses 5W-20, as so many new cars do. Yet, the manual says it holds only 4.5 quarts, rather than the 5 or 6 quarts that I would expect in a 2.4 liter engine using such light oil. I do not expect that to be a problem. Next I must determine what after market filter will fit it. Anyone already got the answer?
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [wtd44] by texases
May 07, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (May 07, 2008 3:49 pm)

I wouldn't give the 4.5 qts a second thought - no cars that I know of take 6, and most cars went from 5 to 4.5 when oil filters shrank, years ago.
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [texases] by shipo
May 07, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: texases (May 07, 2008 5:26 pm)

I wouldn't give the 4.5 qts a second thought - no cars that I know of take 6, and most cars went from 5 to 4.5 when oil filters shrank, years ago.
 
He-he, playing Devil's Advocate here; every BMW sold in the States for at least the last ten years has taken seven or more quarts of oil, including their 2.5 liter models.
 
That said, 4.5 quarts sounds about right for the Toyota engine.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [shipo] by texases
May 07, 2008 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (May 07, 2008 5:34 pm)

Right you are, but the 4 cyls did take less (many moons ago...)
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capacities [texases] by wtd44
May 08, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: texases (May 07, 2008 6:04 pm)

My 2002 Mercury Mountaineer uses 6 quarts of 5W-20. So for at least the last 6 years, light oil in large quantities has been around.
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Re: capacities [wtd44] by texases
May 08, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (May 08, 2008 6:55 am)

Well, I was correct...in stating "that I know of"...learn something new every day. I do still believe that a 4.5 qt capacity is nothing to be concerned about, given reasonable maintenance.
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Re: capacities [texases] by wtd44
May 08, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: texases (May 08, 2008 1:53 pm)

And I agree! In a way, 6 quart crankcases are "wasteful" in volume terms, although the reason for the lighter oil is to gain gasoline mileage. I have long ago come to the conclusion that any car that uses 5W-20 can readily use 5W-30. There are the usual warranty considerations, of course.
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [wtd44] by jeffyscott
May 09, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: wtd44 (May 07, 2008 3:49 pm)

Why would you expect engine using lighter oil to have a larger capacity?
 
My wife's VW takes 6 quarts in a 2.5 (5 cyl) and that is 5W-40. Used to have a Sentra that took only 3.5 or 3.75, IIRC...but that was only a 1.6L.

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