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Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2

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Re: standard motor oil vs. synthetic [paulco] by shipo
Apr 25, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: paulco (Apr 25, 2008 9:24 am)

The changing of your oil may simply have been a case of too little, too late. Your engine may already be toast.
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Re: standard motor oil vs. synthetic [shipo] by paulco
Apr 25, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 25, 2008 10:02 am)

OK, thanks for your reply.
 
More information: after changing the oil, I checked and re-checked the oil level. While doing that, I cracked and broke a part of the dipstick tube, which is plastic. We got that replaced the next day at the VW dealership. While at VW dealership, we also asked them to check on why "check engine" light was always lit. They did check on that and fixed it so it was no longer on all the time.
 
Then, next day after leaving, engine became very sluggish all at once. Because of this sudden onset, I'm thinking it wasn't just a coincidence of long-time neglect.
 
Your thoughts?
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Re: standard motor oil vs. synthetic [paulco] by jeffyscott
Apr 25, 2008 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: paulco (Apr 25, 2008 11:44 am)

During the two years that the oil was not changed, was it being driven or was it in storage or something?
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Re: standard motor oil vs. synthetic [jeffyscott] by paulco
Apr 25, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Apr 25, 2008 11:51 am)

It was being driven, probably ~10k miles per year.
 
I emphasize that engine was very sluggish, but not knocking.
 
Spun bearing? In any case, it's at the garage and will have a diagnosis soon.
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Re: standard motor oil vs. synthetic [paulco] by texases
Apr 25, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: paulco (Apr 25, 2008 1:11 pm)

It may be some wire/hose/etc. go knocked loose during the whole oil change/dipstick tube thing. I can think of no oil-change specific thing that would do what you describe, sythetic oil or dino-based.
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"the man thing" by tired_old_dave
Apr 26, 2008 (8:50 am)
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while changing channels with the tv remote - is it really a guy thing like comedians say - caught an ion life show. Oil - castrol - bmw race cars, not attacking bob's guru - but the bmw team member comment was, paraphrasing, thin oil has shown to produce 5hp or more, but wouldn't want that in a personal car and try to do 100k kilometers, not good for the bearings.
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Getting ready for the first oil change... by wtd44
May 07, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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I about went crazy trying to locate the oil filter on our brand new 2009 Vibe AWD. Eventually, I jacked it up, set jack stand in place, and crawled under. I quickly saw that one front corner of the oil pan was "pushed in" and the oil filter occupied that corner, sitting there where I would usually expect to see just another regular angular corner in the pan! And this Toyota engine uses 5W-20, as so many new cars do. Yet, the manual says it holds only 4.5 quarts, rather than the 5 or 6 quarts that I would expect in a 2.4 liter engine using such light oil. I do not expect that to be a problem. Next I must determine what after market filter will fit it. Anyone already got the answer?
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [wtd44] by texases
May 07, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (May 07, 2008 4:49 pm)

I wouldn't give the 4.5 qts a second thought - no cars that I know of take 6, and most cars went from 5 to 4.5 when oil filters shrank, years ago.
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [texases] by shipo
May 07, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: texases (May 07, 2008 6:26 pm)

I wouldn't give the 4.5 qts a second thought - no cars that I know of take 6, and most cars went from 5 to 4.5 when oil filters shrank, years ago.
 
He-he, playing Devil's Advocate here; every BMW sold in the States for at least the last ten years has taken seven or more quarts of oil, including their 2.5 liter models.
 
That said, 4.5 quarts sounds about right for the Toyota engine.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Getting ready for the first oil change... [shipo] by texases
May 07, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (May 07, 2008 6:34 pm)

Right you are, but the 4 cyls did take less (many moons ago...)

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