Factory oil filters vs. After Market oil filters - READ ONLY

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#81 of 100 A question to McConnell. by pirat5 Feb 04, 2001 (6:13 am)
Hi! I also have '99 Passat, but my wise drives it mostly around the town, short distances so in two years she put only 20K miles. So far the car was serviced by the dealer 5000 miles. I think that it was highly abusive to the engine. Now when the free is over I will do the oil changes 3000 as it always should be done. I was also considering switching for synthec., but is it gonna help my already abused engine. Besides, in my opinion that free maintenance is the worst that VW could give us if we want reliable vehicles. It's good for VW because they gonna have lots of work after the warranty period and they gonna sell lots of parts. I just had 20K service done and I had to stay on the top of everything. I had to insist on the brake fluid change, I still have to go to change air filter, because they cad they've done it, but I checked and it's dirty as hell. I fill cheated and I think that's the name of the game, do as much as consumers see and know or as little as possible before they notice. Thanks for your attention. Good luck with this wonderful car abused by service departments.
#82 of 100 I'm not sure why .. by adc100 Feb 05, 2001 (4:45 am)
you are saying the car is abused? A car should be able to handle 20 K in stop and go for two years unless you did not change oil in that time. If it doesn't use oil than it is probably not abused. Switching to syn in my opinion is the right move for longer engine life. If you want to be conservative change at 500 miles with a good oil filter (Amzoil, Mobile 1, Delco Ultraguard, Pure One) My $.02
#83 of 100 For a couple cents more... by jlybny Feb 06, 2001 (1:54 am)
On my 3.8 Buick (1995), if I put a FRAM on, I hear valvetrain noise as if if it was 2 quarts low so, as I have done in the past with my other GM products, I stick with AC-Delco for my oil filters. They've given me satisfaction for barely 40-50 cents more (CDN) per filter than the Fram... Dunno about other car brands but I've always heard than GM cars were quite fussy about their oil filters...
#84 of 100 Have had a GM.. by adc100 Feb 06, 2001 (3:40 am)
product in the driveway for 40 years. Mostly Chevs. Used all kinds with no problems. If you like Delco, go with the Ultraguard otherwise the Mobil 1, Pure one, Amsoil as has been mentioned here many times.
#85 of 100 AC Delco Costs less than Fram at Walmart by kansan Feb 06, 2001 (8:42 am)
The AC Delco filters are actually less than the Frams at Walmart (about 11 cents I think), so why use an inferior product when you it actually costs a little more? The Motorcrafts are also about the same, although I'm not sure if they're a little more or a little less. I plan on trying the Motorcrafts next because I found out that they use a Purolator Pure One filter element in a Purolator Premium Plus case, and they're less than $3 at Walmart also. After all the evidence against Fram, and the fact that they aren't any cheaper than the AC DElcos and Motorcrafts, why would anyone continue using Fram? Probably the same people that bought the Chevy Vegas in the 70s. Ken
#86 of 100 Pure One by turbotc Feb 06, 2001 (8:54 am)
I went to Advance Auto Parts yesterday, formerly known as Parts America. Anyways, they had the Purolator Pure One on sale for $4.99 each. Regularly $5.99 each. I bought 4 for each of our cars. I have been using Bosch filters at Autozone for $4.99 each. Same price and I figure the Pure One is better since the filter elements are synthetic.
#87 of 100 Pure One by vadp Feb 06, 2001 (9:28 am)
It's element is not synthetic.
#88 of 100 vadp by turbotc Feb 06, 2001 (10:36 am)
ahh. Ooops, I thought it was. I'll still keep it for $5 a piece.
#89 of 100 Synthetic element by bblaha Feb 06, 2001 (10:45 pm)
Ok, I guess I have to bite on this one. Can anyone offer a logical reason why a synthetic element is superior than say an...errr... "all natural" one? What is it about "synthetic" that makes it better than the alternative?
#90 of 100 bblaha... by adc100 Feb 07, 2001 (3:47 am)
Actually there are two normally used filter media: Cellulose (paper-cheaper), and fiberglass (normally better and more expensive). The reason fiberglass is superior to the paper ones is that the strands of glass are a uniform thickness and filter more consistantly. They have more pockets (pores) than paper which has only nonuniform holes in the paper. In addition fiberglass media lasts longer. This is measured by multipass tests which measure the ratio of particles trapped at specified particle sizes. I know for a fact that Mobil 1 filters have fiberglass media. From previous discussions on these boards Pure one, Amzoil, and Delco Ultraguard are also of this type. I use the Mobil 1. Later

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