Factory oil filters vs. After Market oil filters - READ ONLY

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#61 of 100 You want to talk Independent labs? by biyonic1 Jan 11, 2001 (8:23 pm)
As an engineering student I toured an independent lab that tested filters and oil for the companies. During the tour we got to hear horror stories of some oils and filters that were actually nastier than used oil and filters. This applied to OEM's as well! When asked what the best oil and filter was - this person could not tell us due to him working for the lab. So we rephrased our question, "What oil and filter do you use in your car" Fram and Penzoil.
#62 of 100 Filters by mdecamps Jan 11, 2001 (11:54 pm)
Everyone, lets not forget about the AC Delco Ultraguard Gold filters....they are arguably as good as the Mobil 1 ane the Pure One.....their micron rating is excellent
#63 of 100 by bottgers Jan 12, 2001 (9:15 am)
biyonic 1 That lab technician must not care about his car. I haven't seen any data to suggest that Pennzoil is good or bad, but I do know that if it's not full synthetic, it's not providing the best protection. However, I have read in several different studies that Fram filters are no good. mdecamps I haven't seen any data that supports your claim. I'm not saying it isn't true, I just haven't seen the data.
#64 of 100 biyonic1.. by adc100 Jan 12, 2001 (5:33 pm)
35 years ago I was a M.E. student at Penn State. After 35 years of being in the business, I believe very little of what I hear. Fram's are junk. Mobil 1/Amsoil much better than Pennzoil. Maybe you talked to the sanitation test engineer??
#65 of 100 Ditto shock about Fram being junk by wyattw1 Jan 15, 2001 (3:19 pm)
I too used Fram for years, but often wondered if they were really any good. Can anyone recommend an east coast distributor for Mobil 1 or Amsoil filters (chain automotive store, etc)? I've never seen either one. As far as oil goes, TNN had an automotive show called Performance Plus in the 80's. They ran five identical 350 Chevy engines with five different oils for 25,000 miles without a change. After pulling the valve covers and pans, the engine using Quaker State was still relatively clean considering its ordeal. I don't remember all the other oils in the middle, but the Pennzoil motor looked like a sludge factory! This has been supported by other independent lab data I have seen since. Needless to say, I haven't bought the yellow bottles since.
#66 of 100 wyattw1 by bottgers Jan 15, 2001 (8:35 pm)
Mobile 1 and Purilator filters can be purchased at Pep Boys and Autozone that I know of. Amzoil products aren't sold at your typical chain store, you have to locate someone in your area who sells their products. Pennzoil and Quaker State are one in the same company. I doubt if there's much difference between each one's motor oils.
#67 of 100 Kmart has Mobile 1 filters by adc100 Jan 16, 2001 (6:31 pm)
Internet under I think Amsoil.com will probably let you contact dealer. armtdm who posts here can help you if you are patient. You can probably email him - check his profile. Later Al
#68 of 100 Thanks by wyattw1 Jan 18, 2001 (3:52 pm)
Will be making trip to Pep Boys soon...50 mile drive. No wonder I haven't seen them.
#69 of 100 Mobil 1 Filters by e_mcconnell Jan 23, 2001 (4:45 am)
I've been able to find Mobil 1 filters at KMart believe it or not... Has anyone had any experience with K&N oil filters? I've used them along with the Mobil 1 products on my 99 VW Passat 1.8t with no issues. They seem to be the same filter when I compared it to the Mobil 1 filter. Any ideas? As far as oil, I will only use Mobil 1. It's what BMW and Mercedes put in their engines. BTW, I've had 63000+ carefree miles in my Passat... SCHEDULED maintenance is the golden rule when it comes to long lasting cars.
#70 of 100 K&N Filter by vadp Jan 23, 2001 (8:30 am)
I never saw that one in person. If they're similar in construction, there is a good chance that they're made by the same manufacturer. As I know, Champion Labs. makes the Mobil 1 filter and bunch of others.

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