Factory oil filters vs. After Market oil filters - READ ONLY

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#56 of 100 by bottgers Jan 11, 2001 (3:05 pm)
"They" would be lab technicians.
#57 of 100 bottgers by vadp Jan 11, 2001 (3:32 pm)
So, independant lab technicians? Is it a trade union, or something?
#58 of 100 by bottgers Jan 11, 2001 (4:33 pm)
I guess I don't know what you're asking. If you use key words "oil filter tesing", you should be able to find this web site. Unfortunately, I don't remember the site address. Give it a try.
#60 of 100 bottgers by vadp Jan 11, 2001 (4:48 pm)
Okay, I was hoping that you found a new site similar to the old one: http://members.nbci.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html My mistake. Sorry.
#61 of 100 You want to talk Independent labs? by biyonic1 Jan 11, 2001 (8:23 pm)
As an engineering student I toured an independent lab that tested filters and oil for the companies. During the tour we got to hear horror stories of some oils and filters that were actually nastier than used oil and filters. This applied to OEM's as well! When asked what the best oil and filter was - this person could not tell us due to him working for the lab. So we rephrased our question, "What oil and filter do you use in your car" Fram and Penzoil.
#62 of 100 Filters by mdecamps Jan 11, 2001 (11:54 pm)
Everyone, lets not forget about the AC Delco Ultraguard Gold filters....they are arguably as good as the Mobil 1 ane the Pure One.....their micron rating is excellent
#63 of 100 by bottgers Jan 12, 2001 (9:15 am)
biyonic 1 That lab technician must not care about his car. I haven't seen any data to suggest that Pennzoil is good or bad, but I do know that if it's not full synthetic, it's not providing the best protection. However, I have read in several different studies that Fram filters are no good. mdecamps I haven't seen any data that supports your claim. I'm not saying it isn't true, I just haven't seen the data.
#64 of 100 biyonic1.. by adc100 Jan 12, 2001 (5:33 pm)
35 years ago I was a M.E. student at Penn State. After 35 years of being in the business, I believe very little of what I hear. Fram's are junk. Mobil 1/Amsoil much better than Pennzoil. Maybe you talked to the sanitation test engineer??
#65 of 100 Ditto shock about Fram being junk by wyattw1 Jan 15, 2001 (3:19 pm)
I too used Fram for years, but often wondered if they were really any good. Can anyone recommend an east coast distributor for Mobil 1 or Amsoil filters (chain automotive store, etc)? I've never seen either one. As far as oil goes, TNN had an automotive show called Performance Plus in the 80's. They ran five identical 350 Chevy engines with five different oils for 25,000 miles without a change. After pulling the valve covers and pans, the engine using Quaker State was still relatively clean considering its ordeal. I don't remember all the other oils in the middle, but the Pennzoil motor looked like a sludge factory! This has been supported by other independent lab data I have seen since. Needless to say, I haven't bought the yellow bottles since.

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