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| As most of you know, Amsoil does not make its own filters. I always thought that they were made by Hastings. Well, come to find out Hastings was purchased by Baldwin (actually conglomerate) Clarcor, in 1991 and purchased Hastings in 1995. Baldwin/Clarcor manufactures multiple filters under different specs for multiple brands. Amsoil filters are made in two locations, one in S.Dakota the other in Nebraska, the SD plant originally Hastings. Not sure if anyone ever knows what they are purchasing anymore from anyone. | |
| To answer your question in the most scientific fashion, go ahead and print the report "Engine Oil Filter Study" here at this discussion topic http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/minimopar/oil filterstudy.html . I did and was so motivated I cut an a Fram DG8A off my Ford pickup and was shocked and disgusted at the lousy construction. Conclusion? Why buy and Fram filter when there are so many better ones. As such I bought 3 Bosch Premium in the black box at $4.99 each then I cut one open and compared it to the Fram DG8A. The Bosh made the Fram look really bad. Then I got a Hastings carried by ABC Auto here in East Texas and it was pretty good to. Bottom line - Bosch and Hastings were both a lot better than the Fram. So I packed up 4 Fram X2's I had bought a few weeks ago, took em back to Wal-Mart and got my money back. | |
| Are there any metal pieces inside the new frams or are they all cardboard like the old ones | |
| Edward, please excuse me for being tardy in answering your request. The latest Fram I disassembled was the DG8A and it was paper too. They have a more expensive model called XG but my conclusion is why bother with them. As I stated in my mini-research, there are so many better filters out there to be fooling around with ANY Fram product. Please note that I have also installed K&N air filters in both my Ford 150 and my wife's new Town & Country. I use the Motorcraft FL 1A in the truck and a Bosch in the T&C. If you would like to contact me for further info, feel free. | |
| Himplom, have you seen these oil filters from K-Mart? They seem to be well made. Also, I use to have a K&N air filter in my car until I noticed numerous large holes in the media after about 1000 miles of usage. These holes are large enough for a fine sewing needle to go through. I feel that these holes are just too large to provide adequate filtration of fine dirt particles. I also tried adding an additional layer of oil to see if this help. But, the small holes still exist. | |
| I have no idea as to the quality of the filters but due to their misinformation and lieing about Syntec being a synthetic oil (see the Nov Car and Driver for details)when in fact it is a new refining process of dino, I would trust nothing from Castrol!!!! Too many good filters out their with Pure One, Mobil 1, Amsoil/Hastings the best in my opinion. Based on my oil analysis these are better then OEM filters. | |
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| have a 93 legend and cant find much aftermarket stuff--mostly fram. acura[honda] dealer prices are strong-arm robbery. i thought i was lucky to find penske filters at k-mart, real cheap. anybody know the rep or origin of these filters? did i get the ususal "you get what you pay for junk?" | |
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I couldn't get the link for the STP filter study to work but here is one I found from another site. http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/ |
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| I use the Mobil 1 filter because the filter medium is superior. Yea, 10 bucks is a lot, but so is a $20000 vechcle. If you can't aford a $10 oil filter stick with used Kia's. I also use Mobil 1 oil and change on an anual basis. After 6 months I change oil filters. I read articles that Mobil tested 4 identical vehicles for 200, 000 miles each. They changed oil in 2 of them at 7500 miles and the other two at 15 000 miles. After 200,000 miles all four engines had all wear parts up to specifications for **new** parts. That sold me on synthesics. I personally believe Mobil best. They have written articles in SAE journals comparing their oil to other brands. I'm not a Mobil salesman and I used to sell Amsoil products. I'm sure they are OK but as a dealer I wasn't able to get valid information on comparisons with Mobile 1. | |
| Anyone have any info. on AC Ultraguard Gold Filters? From the info. I've read, they are far superior to all others. Looking for further info.... | |
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