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#41 of 21536 Ford by paisan Nov 30, 2000 (1:55 pm)
And when pre-tell in the past 20 years has it been in an up-cycle I love Blue Oval News! -mike
#42 of 21536 Legacy by bluesubie Nov 30, 2000 (2:08 pm)
I've also heard that the slight delay in automatic Subes is due to the size of the torque converter. Anyone else want to add to that? Colin? Dennis
#43 of 21536 tq steer by ramon Nov 30, 2000 (3:09 pm)
Some one mentioned that tauruses , camrys and accords don't have them. Well they might be equiped with traction control where by the ecu will retard engine timing to cut power thus limiting tq steer from happening.
#44 of 21536 Taurus by tincup47 Nov 30, 2000 (3:14 pm)
I can't speak for Accords or Camrys, but traction control was not on the 94 SHO we used to own. 220hp with no torque steer. Also no transmission or engine problems over 120,000 miles.
#45 of 21536 does it by ramon Nov 30, 2000 (6:21 pm)
have front LSD? Wow. 220hp no TQ steer. Our old 95 V6 Probe with 165hp creates TQ steer like mad when you step on the gas hard....
#46 of 21536 More Ford bashing by francophile Nov 30, 2000 (6:32 pm)
Torque steer doesn't happen on the Fords mentioned because it has been engineered out, not because someone pulled some kind of software stunt. There is a right way and a wrong way to fix certain things, and hardware and hard engineering is the way to fix torque steer. Like Ford did. The Explorer/Firestone controversy that seemed to ignite the current flamefest aimed at Ford is being scrutinized by people looking at hard numbers. Those numbers indicate some interesting things, such as the fact that the failure rate of the tires can be pinpointed to a particular factory and even a particular time period. Those numbers also indicate that the death rate in Explorers is 28 percent BELOW the national average for all vehicles combined. Of course the damage is already done, and the fear mongers and the media outlets that sell advertising by catering to their cravings have already made their money on the basis of such questionable statistics and Naderesque, kill-the-Corvair, hatchet-job tactics. Now they are looking for the next hatchet target. Shame on us for feeding that awful machine, because it is aimed right at us. -wdb
#47 of 21536 WDB by armac13 Nov 30, 2000 (8:10 pm)
How dare you inject a note of sanity into the proceedings. I have a strong (somewhat irrational) dislike of Fords based upon my past experiences. It's fun to bash them! You are correct however and I feel properly chastened. Mea culpa. Ross
#48 of 21536 Car and Driver by tincup47 Nov 30, 2000 (8:22 pm)
link to Car and Driver's explorer tire testhttp://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/columns/2001/January/200101_steeringcolumn.xml
#49 of 21536 I'm with Ross by paisan Nov 30, 2000 (8:33 pm)
I've (and many people I know) been burnt by FORD, I feel it's my god given right to be able to bash on em. And like he said it's fun! -mike
#50 of 21536 I used to work at an Isuzu dealer by tincup47 Nov 30, 2000 (8:44 pm)
It was fun to bash them also, but I refrain from doing so on this list.

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