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#22423 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [rsholland] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (8:40 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Nov 28, 2012 9:03 pm)
More from the PDF....
 
It says the XT required 91 AKI minimum? I thought premium was not a requirement?
 
The ranges for the CVT ratios are amazing. It can go shorter than the 6th speed manual's 1st gear, but also taller than 6th.
 
With a 3.7:1 final drive and a ratio of 0.570 to 1 on the CVT, the 2.5l will rev extremely low at high speeds.
 
The turbo's final drive is shorter, 4.11:1, probably to avoid lag. It's also probably why the mileage numbers for the 2l turbo are lower.
 
Brakes are smaller for non turbos, surprise. Mine are 11.7" and 11.3", now it's 11.6" and 10.8". Turbos are both bigger at 12.4" and 10.9" with the rears vented.
 
Tires are taller, 60 instead of 55 series. May not fit a full sized spare in the spare tire well now.
 
Angle of approach is down by 2 degrees, not very significant but still.
 
Base model gained 50-60 lbs over the 2009s, but the XT is a lot heavier, 36xx while it was 34xx back in 2009. Lots of extra content I'm sure.
 
24/32 crushes my 20/26 though. Even the new XT's 23/28 easily beats mine.
 
Fuel tank is one gallon smaller, 15.9 gallons now, back to where it was for 1998-2008. It was 16.9 gallons last year. That offsets some of the gained range.
 
The 250hp comes with an asterix - 93 octane. 91 octane minimum so that contradicts what we heard earlier about using regular fuel. Bummer.
 
Not liking the weight gain (XT), premium fuel requirement (XT), and reduced towing.
 
Like the size, content, and better efficiency.

#22424 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (8:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 7:58 am)
Vented rotors all around is nice. I actually don't need the cargo capacity, but it comes with all the other stuff, and this is SO much more desirable than an Impreza.
 
I want one too.

#22425 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (8:43 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 8:40 am)
The 250hp comes with an asterix - 93 octane. 91 octane minimum so that contradicts what we heard earlier about using regular fuel. Bummer.
 
It may be a matter of only doing 240 HP with regular or something. Supposedly premium was not a requirement, but I bet it's needed for best performance. I'll take 240 HP...heck, I'll take 230 HP if it means I can put regular in.

#22426 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [colin_l] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (8:49 am)

Replying to: colin_l (Nov 29, 2012 8:29 am)
Big Brother is now watching you.
 
If you see a light, top off ASAP. Hopefully it doesn't burn oil in the first place. I've never had to add oil between changes on our 3 Subies.

#22427 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [bpizzuti] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (8:50 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 29, 2012 8:43 am)
I'm not liking the 26xx lb curb weight, though. You're going to want most of that power.
 
Kinda makes the base model more appealing, being so much lighter.

#22428 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (8:58 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 8:50 am)
Yeah but how many of the goodies will only be on the turbo? We already know the iDrive setup will be turbo-only. Maybe EyeSight too.
 
I mostly want EyeSight. If I can get it on the base I might just do so. But I bet it's turbo only for now.

#22429 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [bpizzuti] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (9:09 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 29, 2012 8:58 am)
Yeah, sounds like the paddles will be for the XT. The stepped transmission also.
 
Bob likes EyeSight too, funny thing is a lot of Sienna owners complained about their radar-based cruise control so I haven't been craving it. Most of them turn it off.
 
EyeSight it different in that is uses cameras, though. Let's wait and see.

#22430 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by colin_l

Nov 29, 2012 (9:24 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 8:49 am)
That's probably a result of owning a Miata and not a WRX.
 
With a horizontally opposed engine, it's very likely to consume some oil if you do a lot of aggressive cornering. Even with a dry sump, it's going to happen because the cylinder heads are laying sideways.
 
I had to add a lot of oil to my Impreza which I autocrossed the whole time I owned it. My compression was great and tailpipe clean.

#22431 of 22551 Mazda may have one-upped Subie by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (10:52 am)

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/11/mazda-cx-5-gets-power-boost-2012-los-an- geles-auto-show/
 
2.5L engine, 180+ HP, 180+ lb-ft of torque, and 30 MPG highway in AWD guise. I hope Mazda and Subaru don't go to war or something, smaller automakers are dropping like flies and we need these two to stick around.

#22432 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by rsholland

Nov 29, 2012 (11:56 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 9:09 am)
A few months back I drove a new Outback with Eyesight and was impressed with that feature.
 
A few small details:
 
• You have a choice of three distances between your car and the car in front with the adaptive cruise control.
 
• The cruise control indicator on the instrument panel gives an actual speed readout as to what it's set at. There is also an indicator as to what distance you have it set at. I like that.
 
• The lane departure warning can be a bit annoying, as any time you cross a lane it warns you, even if it's an intentional move on your part. So if you pull off the road and into a shopping center, or change lanes on the expressway, it will go off.
 
Bob

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