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Your Community Leaders are ateixeira and rsholland.

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#22417 of 22551 Re: More on the new Forester [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Nov 28, 2012 (3:19 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 28, 2012 2:41 pm)
Yeah, that's something I worry about with Mazda. Plus my father is a big Subie fan and keeps bugging me to get one.
 
I should tell him I'll get one as soon as Mom replaces her Santa Fe with a CX-5

#22418 of 22551 US-spec '14 Forester by rsholland

Nov 28, 2012 (9:03 pm)

Press Kit documents:
 
http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease/391/117/subaru-introduces-all-new-2014-fore- ster-crossover-suv
 
http://subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/specs/2014_Forester_AAG_FINAL_1.pdf
 
http://subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/specs/2014-Forester-Specs-11-13rev_1.- - - pdf
 
Note there is no XT manual, even though the spec sheet PDF indicates there is one. Also, towing has been reduced to 1500 lbs from 2400 lbs. Not good. I can only hope it's due to revised government tow ratings, and not changes to downgrade the car's towing capability.
 
Bob

#22419 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [rsholland] by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (6:51 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Nov 28, 2012 9:03 pm)
I'm still drooling over 250 lb-ft at 2000 RPM. Hope this thing isn't too expensive though, seems like it's going to have a LOT of stuff.
 
Then again, i can live without the power liftgate and a panoramic sunroof. Then again (again), I want EyeSight and need Sirius/XM, and Subie's generally pretty annoying with the packaging and pre-reqs.

#22420 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [bpizzuti] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (7:58 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 29, 2012 6:51 am)
I bet prices will definitely creep up. Some notes:
 
250hp, at first I thought it was 240hp.
 
24/32 could be a class best for AWD.
 
Higher hip points should address complaints about low passenger seats, and lower sills keep it easy to get in.
 
Driver's knee air bag and brake override are new, I think.
 
Rear brake rotors on XT are vented now.
 
74.7 cubic feet capacity beats the Tribeca! Yikes!
 
I want one!

#22421 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [rsholland] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (8:22 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Nov 28, 2012 9:03 pm)
Details...
 
Nearly 4" more leg room in back, which was already roomy. Dwarfs my '98 model now.
 
Seats are 1.4" higher. Tunnel is lower, too, for leg room in the rear seat middle position.
 
Oil level indicator. Is there still a dip stick?
 
Only the XT gets dual exhaust, so the non turbos had some cost cutting there.
 
18" for the XT means expensive tires. Our 17"s are already expensive.
 
Not much detail on X-Mode.
 
Some folks complained about the old head restraints, those are revised and the anti-whiplash protection is now part of the seat, sounds like.
 
Incline start assist and steering wheel controls are standard now even on the base model, nice. The wheel tilts and telescopes also on all models, before it was on the higher end ones only.
 
How many screens do they have? Base model, then the Premium has a backup cam, then the Limited has an upgraded LCD and that's not even getting to the Navi option? Overkill? They really only need 2, and make the backup cam standard.
 
Limited gets the power gate, that would probably be my choice, that or the Premium with AWP. XT Touring is loaded to the gills, that'll venture well in to the 30s I bet in price. Definitely moved upscale.

#22422 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by colin_l

Nov 29, 2012 (8:29 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 8:22 am)
Oil level indicator. Is there still a dip stick?
 
On most cars that have the indicator, no, there isn't a dip stick. Manufacturers correctly realize that an overwhelming number of car owners do not check the dip stick. I doubt they will check the electronic oil level, either, before it gets low enough to trip an alert.
 
But this also ties oil level into the ECU, so they can see when someone drives 10,000 miles on low oil and then later has engine trouble.

#22423 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [rsholland] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (8:40 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Nov 28, 2012 9:03 pm)
More from the PDF....
 
It says the XT required 91 AKI minimum? I thought premium was not a requirement?
 
The ranges for the CVT ratios are amazing. It can go shorter than the 6th speed manual's 1st gear, but also taller than 6th.
 
With a 3.7:1 final drive and a ratio of 0.570 to 1 on the CVT, the 2.5l will rev extremely low at high speeds.
 
The turbo's final drive is shorter, 4.11:1, probably to avoid lag. It's also probably why the mileage numbers for the 2l turbo are lower.
 
Brakes are smaller for non turbos, surprise. Mine are 11.7" and 11.3", now it's 11.6" and 10.8". Turbos are both bigger at 12.4" and 10.9" with the rears vented.
 
Tires are taller, 60 instead of 55 series. May not fit a full sized spare in the spare tire well now.
 
Angle of approach is down by 2 degrees, not very significant but still.
 
Base model gained 50-60 lbs over the 2009s, but the XT is a lot heavier, 36xx while it was 34xx back in 2009. Lots of extra content I'm sure.
 
24/32 crushes my 20/26 though. Even the new XT's 23/28 easily beats mine.
 
Fuel tank is one gallon smaller, 15.9 gallons now, back to where it was for 1998-2008. It was 16.9 gallons last year. That offsets some of the gained range.
 
The 250hp comes with an asterix - 93 octane. 91 octane minimum so that contradicts what we heard earlier about using regular fuel. Bummer.
 
Not liking the weight gain (XT), premium fuel requirement (XT), and reduced towing.
 
Like the size, content, and better efficiency.

#22424 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (8:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 7:58 am)
Vented rotors all around is nice. I actually don't need the cargo capacity, but it comes with all the other stuff, and this is SO much more desirable than an Impreza.
 
I want one too.

#22425 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Nov 29, 2012 (8:43 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 8:40 am)
The 250hp comes with an asterix - 93 octane. 91 octane minimum so that contradicts what we heard earlier about using regular fuel. Bummer.
 
It may be a matter of only doing 240 HP with regular or something. Supposedly premium was not a requirement, but I bet it's needed for best performance. I'll take 240 HP...heck, I'll take 230 HP if it means I can put regular in.

#22426 of 22551 Re: US-spec '14 Forester [colin_l] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (8:49 am)

Replying to: colin_l (Nov 29, 2012 8:29 am)
Big Brother is now watching you.
 
If you see a light, top off ASAP. Hopefully it doesn't burn oil in the first place. I've never had to add oil between changes on our 3 Subies.

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