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Re: 2011 Tribeca?? [lirrmike] by movedor
Nov 04, 2009 (10:46 pm)
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Replying to: lirrmike (Nov 04, 2009 7:30 pm)

Look at the Tribeca sales from the past months and tell what you think is the most likely :
 
Oct 2009: 246
Sep 2009: 358
Aug 2009: 797
Jul 2009: 707
Jun 2009: 784
May 2009: 671
Apr 2009: 567
 
Note that improvements for 2010 model are very minor, unlikely those low recent sales numbers are because of coming model. However it might be from the expectation of more discounts for 2009 model when 2010 is on the lots.
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so it WILL have AWD! by nippononly
Nov 19, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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The Toyota-Subaru coupe WILL be sold as a Subaru, with standard AWD, and 50 more hp than the Toyota model!
 
Interestingly, they apparently think they can get 250 hp out of the Japanese 2.0 without turbocharging it - that will be quite a feat.
 
http://www.insideline.com/subaru/toyobaru-new-details-on-subarus-version-of-the-- toyota-ft-86.html
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [nippononly] by movedor
Nov 19, 2009 (10:01 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 19, 2009 7:27 pm)

250 hp from 2.0 non-turbo? From Subaru? Doesn't sound very credible.
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [nippononly] by rsholland
Nov 20, 2009 (5:24 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 19, 2009 7:27 pm)

Well, that's what I'm hoping and praying for. Still it's not "official" until we see something from Subaru confirming that. That said, it looks promising.
 
Bob
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [movedor] by nippononly
Nov 20, 2009 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: movedor (Nov 19, 2009 10:01 pm)

Yeah, I might expect that from Honda (with a 10,000 rpm redline of course!) but not Subaru. I expect it will end up being the JDM turbo 2.0, which if they can keep the weight well below 3000 pounds should be quite entertaining. But not fuel-efficient by any means.
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [nippononly] by rsholland
Nov 20, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 20, 2009 7:16 am)

I don't know about that. I suspect we may see an all-new boxer engine with direct injection. If so, I expect more power and better fuel economy.
 
Bob
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [nippononly] by ateixeira
Nov 20, 2009 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 19, 2009 7:27 pm)

What happened to the whole "affordable" angle?
 
Originally it was supposed to start under $20k. I'm sure they meant $19,999 plus $800 freight, but still.
 
Now we're at $25k for the Toy, $30 grand for the Subie?
 
Add, what $3 grand at least for a convertible version?
 
 
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [nippononly] by volkov
Nov 20, 2009 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 20, 2009 7:16 am)

Honda couldn't even do that with the 2.0 in the S2000. That was probably the highest tuned mass production car out there.
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [nippononly] by movedor
Nov 20, 2009 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 20, 2009 7:16 am)

I hope they focus on reducing weight instead of increasing power. And I hope they bring it closer to those $20K instead of $30K. Mazda Miata was a success back then because of its low price as sport car appeal, not for its performance.
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Re: so it WILL have AWD! [movedor] by rsholland
Nov 20, 2009 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: movedor (Nov 20, 2009 6:16 pm)

Miatas are still successful. The base prices of 2010 models range from $23,560 (Sport w/soft top) to $29,000 (Grand Touring w/retractable hardtop). These prices are from the Mazda web site. Of course, any options push those numbers up.
 
Bob

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