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Re: Cars 101 is reporting... [saedave] by wmarton64
Jul 12, 2009 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 07, 2009 10:26 am)

The Tribeca is a slightly stretched Legacy/Outback with minimal changes to the basic chassis. Hence the same gas tank. Starting over was the only way to remedy the problem. I doubt that the Tribeca will continue very long now that there is a new larger Outback.
 
I think that it would be a mistake for Subaru to give up on a true 5+ person hauler. Last year, the new Forester cannibalized Outback sales. With the larger Outback, the Tribeca is indeed doomed, but Subaru would still lack a 5+ person hauler if they totally drop the Tribeca concept. Subaru needs to offer families something larger to totally keep them in the Subaru fold, otherwise, it's off to Minivan land for families that need a larger vehicle. A stretched Outback based on the Forester design (i.e., taller and boxier) could be a worthy competitor to the Honda Pilots, Highlanders, etc. of the world.
 
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Re: Cars 101 is reporting... [wmarton64] by rsholland
Jul 12, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: wmarton64 (Jul 12, 2009 8:01 am)

What if...
 
What if the vehicle that replaces the current Tribeca (assuming there will be one) were to be a long-wheelbase (~ 113-115") Outback variant, with 3-row seating? I think the larger and taller body style of the new Outback would lend itself to such a conversion. Think Chevy Tahoe/Suburban type of relationship, but smaller of course. Maybe call it the Maxback.
 
Possibly even add two small rear-opening doors like those found on extended cab pickups (to make it a 6-door vehicle) in order to help access the third-row seats? I would also use the larger 18" wheels found on the Tribeca, but shod with 245/65 tires.
 
From a production standpoint it would certainly make sense, as most of the Outback's parts would be shared. That can't be said of the current Tribeca. Unlike the JDM Forester-based 7-passenger Exiga, it could easily be built in Indiana.
 
If such a vehicle were to be built, it could also serve as the basis for a larger next-gen Baja, if Subaru should decide to re-enter that market (which I hope they do).
 
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refresh my memory... by lucien2
Jul 14, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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...Legacy wagon is gone gone for 2010? Just the Outback remains?
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Re: refresh my memory... [lucien2] by rsholland
Jul 15, 2009 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Jul 14, 2009 6:12 pm)

Correct.
 
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Re: refresh my memory... [rsholland] by lucien2
Jul 15, 2009 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 15, 2009 4:37 am)

poop.
 
Any on-the-road reviews of the OB? Can't find anything but a slew of sedan "quick-drives." All the photos are the same, so they all obviously attended the same press event and were handed a DVD with pics.
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Re: refresh my memory... [lucien2] by rsholland
Jul 15, 2009 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Jul 15, 2009 12:41 pm)

Have you been to NASIOC? There's a bunch there.
 
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Re: refresh my memory... [rsholland] by lucien2
Jul 15, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 15, 2009 5:14 pm)

not much, but I did see that the OB launch happens a month after the Legover. Still sifting through all the mess, with an unclemat on top.
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Re: refresh my memory... [lucien2] by rsholland
Jul 16, 2009 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Jul 15, 2009 5:29 pm)

I hate that guy. In fact, I've got him blocked so I don't see his posts.
 
Loosh, you ought to head on down to a dealer, as most now have plenty of new Outbacks in stock. Take one out for a test drive and see for yourself. They are much roomier inside than before, yet are an inch shorter than the outgoing model.
 
Bob
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Re: refresh my memory... [rsholland] by lucien2
Jul 16, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 16, 2009 4:33 am)

I will. Hoping for decent handling. our 04 FXT suffered a little in that arena. I won't expect aWRX chassis of course, but I do hope it isn't a wallowy mess like this Camry.
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Re: refresh my memory... [rsholland] by lucien2
Jul 17, 2009 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 16, 2009 4:33 am)

2.5 CVT Driving Impressions:
 
A little difficult to assess, given the high-density area of the dealer. Nonetheless, here goes....
 
I may, just may, be tempted to walk away from a manual with this rig. Power delivery is smooth and assured, as the 2.5 has enough oomph to get the car up into the 70's from a stop well enough and with no drama.
 
Steering is quick, direct, and typically heavy, all positive Subaru attributes which have not been diluted.
 
Suspension is poised and comfortable, no canyon carver to be sure, but still with the european feel we all appreciate in these cars. I did not have a chance to wring it out, this is simply based on a more or less sedate test drive. I did have it off road briefly, which is when I really noticed the composure- no porpoising or excessive side to side sway.
 
I'd rather just have a wagon, I could do without the height, but there's little doubt this car will replace our current OB when the time comes; the thing is solid, seems to be well screwed together.
 
Visually, it just.....is. No big whoop. 16" wheels look dinky on the uncladded example I saw. 17s look better, 17s with arch cladding best. I'd like to see 16s with cladding, since I have a set of SSRs lying around from the GF Impreza
 
edit: PS, may be old news to you all. Dealer said the diesel is coming as a manual-only Forester, no immediate idea when.

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