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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [ateixeira] by lucien2
Apr 16, 2009 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 16, 2009 11:09 am)

agreed; but I think the new one may be a better drive. I haven't read anything that says it's lost its edge. WRX combined mileage is only 1mpg worse than the Impreza, so yea, i guess I'd put it on the list; it certainly would vault to the top of the fun-to-drive list, but still really suffers on economy. Can that really be attributed solely to AWD? Or is Subaru behind on engine management? The clubbie would be NA, so it too would fall in the 21k range, and absolutely kills the others on economy.
 
I think the new OB is going to be too much for us, in terms of price, weight, and...well, bigness. We shall see.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [lucien2] by rsholland
Apr 16, 2009 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Apr 16, 2009 5:13 pm)

I think a base Outback might be less expensive than you think. They did remove some items to get the MSRP down.
 
Bob
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Still nothing by dino001
Apr 17, 2009 (4:20 am)
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Sorry, but non of those would be even close to what I'm looking for .
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [lucien2] by volkov
Apr 17, 2009 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Apr 16, 2009 5:13 pm)

I've rambled on before about concerns wrt Subie fuel economy. I think the difference really is AWD which takes a 1-2mpg compared to FWD. If you compare FE of a n/a Impreza with the AWD Matrix for example, it's a dead heat, and the Matrix feels smaller in the back seat. The FWD jetta wagon is comparable in size but only gets the same city FE. It does better on the highway, likely due to the 6th gear and the fact that highway mileage tends to hurt more with the AWD.
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Cars 101 is reporting... by rsholland
Apr 18, 2009 (4:29 pm)
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...that all 2010 Tribecas will be 7-passenger models. I thought this might happen with the roomier 2010 Outback.
 
http://www.cars101.com/
 
Bob
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Re: Cars 101 is reporting... [rsholland] by movedor
Apr 18, 2009 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Apr 18, 2009 4:29 pm)

I think that is a sign Tribeca will survive at least one more year...
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [lucien2] by ateixeira
Apr 21, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Apr 16, 2009 5:13 pm)

The new Outback is actually a tad shorter than the outgoing one. Wheelbase is longer, but overall length is down.
 
It is wider and taller, though.
 
The Clubman is interesting but a few turn-offs for me:
 
* it's pricey ($$)
* options are even more pricey ($$$)
* I don't like center-mounted gauges, and you have get GPS to move it ($$$$)
* even the base model wants premium fuel
 
I actually thought about a Cooper convertible but an S was in a whole other price league compared to the Miata, especially the new one.
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New generation of boxer engines in the works by rsholland
May 12, 2009 (7:42 am)
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A new factory is being built in Japan, which will build these environmentally-friendly engines. Should be up and running sometime in 2010.
 
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/2320468/
 
My guess is that we will finally see DI employed with these new engines.
 
Bob
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Re: New generation of boxer engines in the works [rsholland] by ateixeira
May 14, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (May 12, 2009 7:42 am)

Let's see a 2.0l with DI that makes about 150-160hp or so for the base Impreza and Outback Sport.
 
For once come out with a technology at an affordable price level.
 
I'll be wrong, watch, it'll come on the $30k plus models first.
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JDM accessories for the new Legacy and Outback by rsholland
May 25, 2009 (2:41 pm)
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If we're lucky, we may see some of this stuff.
 
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20090522_169812.html
 
Bob

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