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5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 by movedor
Apr 13, 2009 (9:25 pm)
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With larger Outback I wonder how many people will really consider getting a Tribeca 5 seat. It looks like Tribeca is now in disadvantage in terms of luxury and convenience compared to Outback 2010. And given sales of Tribeca are total disappointment, they may just let it die this year, that is, no updates for 2010, get rid stock at hand, minimize losses. Afterall, in the present economic situation no one can take risks like a costly bad seller.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [movedor] by rsholland
Apr 14, 2009 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: movedor (Apr 13, 2009 9:25 pm)

It's a legitimate concern. I suspect Subaru may drop the 5-passenger 'Beca for 2010, as it will really compete with the new Outback.
 
Bob
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [rsholland] by ateixeira
Apr 14, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Apr 14, 2009 5:09 am)

I'm sure the next Tribeca will be bigger. Right after Subaru introduced it, everyone seemed to upsize their crossovers. Look how big the GM Lambdas are, for instance.
 
I agree with eric and wes that the 05-07 OB and Legacy were probably the peak in terms of styling, but a lot of people criticized them for being a bit bland. Personally I liked the 05-07 Legacy in particular.
 
The new one is bigger and modernized, especially the stacked headlights and the sizing fit better to what consumers expect from that price class now.
 
In short I think they upsized it about as much as they needed to. People will no longer say the back seat is cramped, though it may still not be "paisan sized".
 
I like the mpg readout - my van has it, our Forester has it, the Miata doesn't - and I miss it. 09 Miatas got that upgrade. It's usefull feedback to the driver, IMO.
 
The lack of a temp guage is a bummer, but that's a sign of the times. Modern engines rarely need that. The light on our Forester does the trick.
 
I disagree with whoever said the Forester will lose sales - it's a lot cheaper, it's 10 inches shorter, it's 400 lbs lighter, not to mention it's boxy and practical instead of rakish and stylish like the 2010 OB (tries to be, at least).
 
Overall I think it's a good update. They addressed the complaints about rear leg room and bland styling, basically. Sounds like they actually listened to the customers.
 
I'd like to see more 6 speed manuals in the lineup, but we should keep in mind some competitors don't offer those at all.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [ateixeira] by volkov
Apr 14, 2009 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 14, 2009 8:46 am)

Yep, I think only the Subie faithful would complain about a lack of 6mt in other non-sporty models.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [volkov] by ateixeira
Apr 14, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Apr 14, 2009 9:46 am)

Bummer is you can't get a turbo wagon with the 6MT.
 
They even dropped the manual from the Forester XT.
 
You gotta get a WRX and settle for a small hatch.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [ateixeira] by dino001
Apr 14, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 14, 2009 10:01 am)

That is my major complain, has been all along. When I get tired of my brand new STI and want to go a little softer, still sporty and more luxury, I have no place to go with Subaru .
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [dino001] by ateixeira
Apr 15, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Apr 14, 2009 12:26 pm)

CPO 2008 Forester XT Sports manual.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [dino001] by volkov
Apr 15, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Apr 14, 2009 12:26 pm)

Leg GT still comes in 6MT, but that's sedan only.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [volkov] by lucien2
Apr 16, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Apr 15, 2009 10:59 am)

choices for folks who like sporting wagons but insist on manuals become scarcer every model year. Down to BMW, Audi, and VW essentially. And the sticker price/cost of ownership on at least the first two rule them out for many of us. It's forcing me into a smaller car than I'd really like next time. The short list of short cars is likely to be Impreza wagon (AWD, Subaru, but becoming a more sedate drive as it matures), Mazda3 wagon (versatile, a good drive, stylish), and Clubman. the Clubbie is there because, although it is quite small, it enjoys a formidable efficiency advantage over the other two. And it's a hoot, as is, right out of the box, no assembly required.
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Re: 5 seat Tribeca vs. Outback 2010 [lucien2] by rsholland
Apr 16, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Apr 16, 2009 6:11 am)

Don't forget the 2010 Outback 2.5i Base and Premium, which come with a (new) 6-speed manual. Granted, it may not fill the "sporty" bill as well as some of the others you mentioned.
 
Bob

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