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Replying to: xwesx (Apr 09, 2009 1:09 pm) I had forgotten that the latest Subies had messed up the original design with the trendy(er) "assertive" oversized grill... following in the footsteps of that style-leader, Dodge.  
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I just noticed that the '10 Outback no longer has a hand brake!
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Replying to: xwesx (Apr 09, 2009 4:46 pm) Bob |
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Replying to: nowakj66 (Apr 09, 2009 8:50 am) Or are all limiteds with leather CVTs? Yes. ...according to the 2010 Subaru Outback At-A-Glance Outback 2.5i Limited adds over 2.5i Premium: • 4-way power passenger seat • All-Weather Package • LineartronicTM CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) • Dual-zone automatic climate control system • Leather-trimmed upholstery • Upgraded audio (optional system on Premium)
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The roof rack is a interesting gimmick. Putting 3 or 4 bikes on top will be interesting since the roof mounting appears diffent than the past so current Yakima and Thule racks probably won't work. Then again they probably won't work on any new car I get...  From the Subie site: With a 2.0-in. increase in vehicle width, the 2010 Outback offers greater hip room (+3.5 inches in front, +1.3 in. in back) Adding less than 1.5" to the rear seat width isn't going to help my three kids. The Venza is another maybe 3 or 4 inches wider. The leg room will help! EPA on the Venza AWD 4 banger is 28 mpg vs supposed 27 for the subie. However both of those might be better than the "27" rating for the old `01 model I have now. So much for that "30mpg" teaser a week ago or so. If The 10 outback stays the same price or lower, it will have a good distict difference from the Toyota. Keeping in mind that to most people AWD=AWD and 4cyl = 4cyl. Most look at size, mpg, price and cup holders.
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Replying to: dcm61 (Apr 09, 2009 5:12 pm) |
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Replying to: volkov (Apr 09, 2009 1:14 pm)
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Replying to: lucien2 (Apr 11, 2009 5:25 am) Bob |
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Replying to: jay_24 (Apr 10, 2009 7:16 am) >>> I have a Thule carrier that I use on my 2001 Outback. I have to re-position the roof rails in order to get it to fit; otherwise, I can't open the rear hatch. If you can't adjust the roof rails on the new Outback, this would be a major oversight by Subaru. "Adding less than 1.5" to the rear seat width isn't going to help my three kids. The Venza is another maybe 3 or 4 inches wider. The leg room will help!" >>> Here are the dimensions (in inches and pounds; exterior first then interior ) of the current Subaru SUV/CUV model's: 2009 Forester 2.5 XT Ltd. 179.5(l) X 70.1 (w) X 66.9 (h) 103 (wheelbase) 3440 (wgt.) 40/37.7 (headroom) 43.1/38 (legroom f&r) 56.1/55.6 (sh.room f&r) 2009 Outback 3.0R Ltd. 189(l) X 69.7 (w) X 63.2 (h) 105.1 (wheelbase) 3631 (wgt.) 38.7/37.1 (headroom) 44.1/33.9 (legroom f&r) 54.4/53.7 (sh.room f&r) 2009 Tribeca Limited 191.5(l) X 88.8 (w) X 67.7 (h) 108.2 (wheelbase) 4140 (wgt.) 38.9/38.2 (headroom) 43.3/34.3 (legroom f&r) 58.1/57.5 (sh.room f&r) 2010 Outback 188.2(l) X 71.7 (w) X 65.7 (h) 107.9 (wheelbase) ? (wgt.) ~39?/~38? (headroom) ~45?/37.8 (legroom f&r) 56.3/56.1 (sh.room f&r) I don't understand why they didn't increase the length and width on the new Outback by an inch or two...to something more like the Tribeca. As you noted, this is fundamentally still a four person vehicle. The Tribeca, which has been a complete failure in the marketplace, is really a five person vehicle because the third row is ridiculously small. I think that it would make more sense to have a five-person Outabck and a 6+ person Tribeca. The problem is that the new Outback is still too narrow and the current Tribeca too short. If Subaru discontinues the Tribeca (not an unreasonable proposition given that they only sold 11,000 last year and they are selling only about 500/month this year), then the Outback would be Subaru's largest vehicle, but only have a four-person real life capacity. Here are my thoughts on other aspects of the Outback redesign: the exterior is ok; better than the 2010 Legacy (very vanilla), but not as nice as the current Forester. I am not a big fan of the faux metal fog light housings and skid plate/fascia, but I'll reserve judgment until I see the vehicle in a couple more colors. The rear is plain jane, but not terrible. I am not crazy about the interior...too much shiny plastic. The steering wheel looks very cheap compared to the Momo-designed steering wheel that I have in my current Outback. I also noticed that the press release mentions that the audio system has nine Harman-Kardon speakers; who makes the tuner/receiver though? The McIntosh audio system in my 2001 Outback is very nice. One would hope that they wouldn't go backwards on the interior amenities. wilbur
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Replying to: lucien2 (Apr 11, 2009 5:25 am) |
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