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Re: Abbreviated 2010 Legacy/outback Specs In-hand [volkov] by saedave
Mar 11, 2009 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Mar 10, 2009 1:09 pm)

Didn't realize that Subie was first in US with a CVT, or that FHI made CVTs for Nissan in the past. With a stronger CVT history, the development of a new one may not be as onerous as I initially thought it would be.
 
Yes, but those trans were for micro cars. More heavy duty shared CVT designs are already in use at Nissan and Toyota; why would Fugi waste the development money? With shared switches, etc already from Toyota, shared purchasing power for transmissions makes sense. Expect to find lots of shared pieces in the future.
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Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info by rsholland
Mar 11, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Legacy
 
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2347041&postcount=3482
 
Outback
 
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2347042&postcount=3483
 
I think it's safe to say that US-spec models will be similar—but not identical in terms of package content. Interesting that the cars now get an auto-up driver's window (finally!) and a rear camera comes with NAVI.
 
Also, it looks like the Legacy GT may be 6-speed only?
 
Bob
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Re: Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info [rsholland] by volkov
Mar 11, 2009 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Mar 11, 2009 7:11 am)

I noticed that it only said AT for the 2.5i. Are we to assume then that it's the CVT. Note the H6 specifies 5eat - as expected, CVT might be overpowered by the bigger powerplant. If they were just dropping in the Jatco unit, it can handle the same power in the Murano without any issues. 5EAT even outsourced might still be cheaper than the CVT?
FWIW, I still stand by my long ago assertion that outsourcing the CVT seemed more sensible. If FHI is developing the new unit, it just seems less ill-advised if they have a history.
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Re: Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info [volkov] by rsholland
Mar 11, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Mar 11, 2009 8:52 am)

AT = CVT, I'm sure.
 
Bob
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Re: Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info [volkov] by saedave
Mar 11, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Mar 11, 2009 8:52 am)

FWIW, I still stand by my long ago assertion that outsourcing the CVT seemed more sensible. If FHI is developing the new unit, it just seems less ill-advised if they have a history
 
If they are using the unit from the mini car, I would worry about trans longevity. Let's see if there is a tow rating for the auto trans models.
 
If the fuel economy increase with CVT/3.6 liter is not significant over 5EAT/3.6l , there is no reason to choose a probably more costly CVT.
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Re: Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info [saedave] by rsholland
Mar 11, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: saedave (Mar 11, 2009 10:02 am)

A CVT won't be in the H6, at least not yet.
 
Bob
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Re: Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info [saedave] by volkov
Mar 11, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: saedave (Mar 11, 2009 10:02 am)

But the CVT done right should get definite FE benefit, especially in city driving.
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Re: Canadian-spec 2010 Legacy & Outback info [volkov] by saedave
Mar 11, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Mar 11, 2009 10:13 am)

But the CVT done right should get definite FE benefit, especially in city driving
 
Agreed, but if the CVT is the old Subaru unit designed for a very small engine and vehicle it probably can't be used with the 3.6l. If the power of the 3.6 has been increased with direct injection to 280-300 HP, the limits of the Murano's trans may even be exceeded.
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Diesel/Hybrid? by hondaru
Mar 11, 2009 (11:38 am)
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With the cozy relationship with Nissan/Toyota, have any of you heard about a hybrid or diesel for these models? I think they would do very well in the US.
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Re: Diesel/Hybrid? [hondaru] by volkov
Mar 11, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: hondaru (Mar 11, 2009 11:38 am)

Diesel Forester exists in Europe (?maybe Aus) but it is not a clean diesel so it doesn't meet 50 state emissions and cannot be imported.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=131970

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