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Replying to: eps105 (Mar 09, 2009 7:07 am) FWIW, I had heard it was Outback's body that would differentiate from Legacy more than current models do. Same Legacy chassis/internals, however. Though Outback may not offer an XT to compare with GT, perhaps only 2.5 H4 & 3.6 H6. I think that Legacy design concept will look better as an Outback than a Legacy. 
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Replying to: eps105 (Mar 09, 2009 7:07 am) This bodes very well for the new Outback and Legacy sales... Agree with the comment above about Nissan tuning CVTs well. Mitsu does not, so I hope they do perform like Nissans do. |
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Replying to: rsholland (Mar 09, 2009 11:16 am) Subaru has said the 5EAT is 4EAT JATCO guts reworked by Subaru to add a gear. Unless Subaru is being heavily subsidized (by whom?) in-house CVT development seems very unlikely. I presume even Toyota uses JATCO CVTs...Note that Nissan (JATCOs parent) uses Toyotas hybrid system. You scratch my back; I'll scratch yours.
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Replying to: saedave (Mar 10, 2009 7:06 am) Bb
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Replying to: rsholland (Mar 10, 2009 7:20 am) But the 5EAT story came from Automotive Engineering quite some time ago with official Subaru source. That same article noted the costly mods by Subaru and the increased transmission weight that ensued...I recall 56 pounds. For those who do not remember the close relationship of Subaru with Nissan there were hand-me-down Nissan body dies and even a Nissan model with Nissan engine and Subaru AWD and body. That Japan-only wagon model was called a Stagea. Where ever manufactured a more expensive, heavier trans would be hard to justify for the lower end Subaru models, but eventually pressure to improve corporate CAFE will mean a CVT.
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Replying to: saedave (Mar 10, 2009 12:48 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Mar 10, 2009 1:09 pm) Yes, but those trans were for micro cars. More heavy duty shared CVT designs are already in use at Nissan and Toyota; why would Fugi waste the development money? With shared switches, etc already from Toyota, shared purchasing power for transmissions makes sense. Expect to find lots of shared pieces in the future. |
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Legacy http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2347041&postcount=3482 Outback http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2347042&postcount=3483 I think it's safe to say that US-spec models will be similar—but not identical in terms of package content. Interesting that the cars now get an auto-up driver's window (finally!) and a rear camera comes with NAVI. Also, it looks like the Legacy GT may be 6-speed only? Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Mar 11, 2009 7:11 am) FWIW, I still stand by my long ago assertion that outsourcing the CVT seemed more sensible. If FHI is developing the new unit, it just seems less ill-advised if they have a history.
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Replying to: volkov (Mar 11, 2009 8:52 am) Bob |
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