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Much more here on Legacy concept by rsholland
Jan 11, 2009 (10:32 am)
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http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090111.019/subaru-legacy-concept-front-details-reve- aled
 
The more I study it, the more I like it. I see some (good) Acura, BMW and other influences. Wheelbase is 108.3 inches. Length is up over current Legacy by about 4 inches, width by roughly the same.
 
Bob
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Re: Legacy concept at 2009 NAIAS [rsholland] by oregonboy
Jan 11, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jan 11, 2009 6:39 am)

Dang, I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that is just plain UGLY. Over-styled, with every auto-fashion cliche imaginable, including some from the truck/SUV bag of schlock, (the wheel arches and chevy-esque truck grill). Bad, bad, bad, bad, and dumb! Just awful !!!!!
 
On a positive note, I mostly like the current Impreza and Forester.
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Re: Legacy concept at 2009 NAIAS [oregonboy] by samiam_68
Jan 11, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 11, 2009 10:32 am)

Dang, I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that is just plain UGLY.
 
Yes, I agree, it is quite hideous, both inside and out. The exterior proportions and angles are all wrong. Looks like a love child of a 2005 Kia Amanti and a 2007 Chrysler Sebring, on steroids.
 
Interior looks like a mish-mash of factory and aftermarket. No coherent theme. I wonder, with all those touch screens, if they ever figured out how to make the climate control actually work...
 
I seriously hope they tone this thing down for production. Subaru - if you're listening - please don't bring us another Tribeca!
 
On the plus side, the 3.6 liter engine would be nice if they keep the weight under control.
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Legacy concept measurement comparisons by rsholland
Jan 12, 2009 (6:35 am)
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New Legacy
Wheelbase x 108.3
Length x 188.8
Width x 71.7
Height x 59
 
Old Legacy
Wheelbase 105.1
Length x 185
Width x 68.1
Height x 56.1
 
Camry
Wheelbase x 109.3
Length x 189.2
Width x 71.7
Height x 57.7
 
Accord
Wheelbase x 110.2
Length x 194.1
Width x 72.7
Height x 58.1
 
Mazda6
Wheelbase x 109.8
Length x 193.7
Width x 72.4
Height x 57.9
 
Altima
Wheelbase x 109.3
Length x 189.8
Width x 70.7
Height x 57.9
 
Passat
Wheelbase 106.7
Length x 188
Width x 71.7
Height x 59.7
 
A4
Wheelbase 110.6
Length x 185.2
Width x 71.9
Height x 56.2
 
3 Series
Wheelbase 108.7
Length x 178.2
Width x 71.5
Height x 56.1
 
Taurus
Wheelbase 112.9
Length x 201.8
Width x 74.5
Height x 61.5
 
Malibu
Wheelbase 112.3
Length x 191.8
Width x 70.3
Height x 57.1
 
Fusion
Wheelbase 107.4
Length x 190.2
Width x 72.2
Height x 57.2
 
S40
Wheelbase x 103.9
Length x 176.2
Width x 69.7
Height x 57.2
 
S60
Wheelbase x 106.9
Length x 181.2
Width x 71.0
Height x 56.2
 
9-3
Wheelbase x 105.3
Length x 182.9
Width x 69
Height x 57.1
 
TSX
Wheelbase x 106.5
Length x 185.6
Width x 72.4
Height x 56.7
 
TL
Wheelbase x 109.3
Length x 195.3
Width x 74
Height x 57.2
 
IS
Wheelbase x 107.5
Length x 180.1
Width x 70.9
Height x 56.1
 
GS
Wheelbase x 112.2
Length x 190
Width x 71.7
Height x 56.1
 
G35
Wheelbase x 112.2
Length x 187
Width x 69.8
Height x 57.8
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by rblnr
Jan 12, 2009 (7:38 am)
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Here's a thumbs up vote on the looks -- pretty cool! Lots of Acura in the shoulders and wheel wells(even Mercedes here, though everyone's highlighting them now), BMW a_s. Yet coherent.
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gee whiz by nippononly
Jan 12, 2009 (7:58 am)
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If I were an executive at Acura, I would be preparing the trademark-infringement lawsuit right now!
 
I like the current model better, but I wouldn't call the concept "hideous looking". Certainly, it will be more the right size to compete in the midsize market in the U.S. with the WB stretch.
 
There will still be wagons too, I hope?
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Re: gee whiz [nippononly] by rsholland
Jan 12, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 7:58 am)

Trademark infringement? Never happen. Jeep tried that with Hummer because it had a Jeep-like 7-slot grille, and lost big time. I do agree that Subaru did a lot of "borrowing" of styling cues: Acura TL/TSX and Nissan Altima for the profile; a hint of Audi for the front, and BMW 5-7-series for the rear.
 
There will be a wagon, but we won't see it. We'll get the Outback wagon, just like now.
 
Bob
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Legacy... by ateixeira
Jan 12, 2009 (9:30 am)
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The inside reminds me of the Lexus RX, which is odd because it's not even in the same class. It's those vertical vents, I guess.
 
Outside, though, I mostly see G35/37 influence. I like the stacked headlights.
 
There's too much chrome on there, IMO. The grille looks like Acura designed it, and I don't care for the wide chrome stripe on the back side, either.
 
It looks best in Profile. Big windows should give it good visibility.
 
This is a concept, so if they tone it down like I think they will, the end result should look good.
 
Also - it's good that we are all bringing up upscale/luxury brands when we compare it, note that noone has said Kia or Neon like a lot of previous Subarus.
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Re: Legacy... [ateixeira] by rsholland
Jan 12, 2009 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 12, 2009 9:30 am)

I do agree on the Infiniti G35/37 visual like. We don't agree on the chrome issue.
 
Bob
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Re: Legacy... [rsholland] by ateixeira
Jan 12, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jan 12, 2009 9:36 am)

Perhaps they'll save the chrome for the Limiteds.
 
On the Forester, only the LTD gets chrome door handles, I believe.

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