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Re: [ateixeira] by saedave
Dec 05, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2008 1:44 pm)

You know Subaru, though. Just because the Legacy gets DI doesn't mean other cars will. The Legacy still did not get the 3.6l H6.
 
Consumer Reports said there will be a new Legacy next spring: Those models (probably longer and wider and possibly heavier) might need the 3.6l and DI 2.5 just to maintain performance at the present level. The present 3.0l in my Outback is a fine engine if city mpg does not matter....but CAFE will dictate new models' engine availability. Unless the 3.6l is much more efficient than the 3.0l, the 3.6 might disappear along with the Tribeca which is not selling well. Perhaps DI for the 3.6 could improve mpg.
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Re: [saedave] by ateixeira
Dec 05, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: saedave (Dec 05, 2008 7:45 am)

I wonder how much more the 3.6l costs to produce.
 
Competitors have gone to bigger V6 engines so at this point Subaru would only be catching up.
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Re: [ateixeira] by saedave
Dec 05, 2008 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2008 1:07 pm)

I wonder how much more the 3.6l costs to produce.
 
Subaru provided a detailed description of the difficult assembly procedure in an article for SAE International some time ago. I can't remenber the detail. The other major improvement over the 3.0 liter was a new cylinder head design with better cooling for (I believe) the front cylinder to remove a hot spot: this is what permits operation on 87 octane fuel.
 
The cylinder head should have no extra production cost, but the assembly could be costly.
 
If Legacy gets the JATCO CVT, the 3.6 l would more closely equal the characteristics of the Nissan six with which the CVT was originally designed to work.
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Re: [saedave] by paisan
Dec 07, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: saedave (Dec 05, 2008 6:37 pm)

The 2010 Legacy will have 2.5, 2.5t and 3.6 engines.
 
The 3.6 will put out somewhere between 300-350hp
 
-mike
Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Re: [paisan] by zman3
Dec 08, 2008 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 07, 2008 7:48 pm)

What about transmissions? Are they finally killing the 4EAT? Please say they are.
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2010 Legacy concept to be at the NAIAS by rsholland
Dec 17, 2008 (6:31 am)
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http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2008/12/2010-detroit-auto-show-preview-201- 0-subaru-legacy-concept.html
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Re: 2010 Legacy concept to be at the NAIAS [rsholland] by paisan
Dec 17, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Dec 17, 2008 6:31 am)

Hmm, I've seen the 2010 Legacy and it's not quite that radical in the front.
 
From what I could gather it's more G37 Sedan-like than that concept promotes.
 
Slightly wider, slightly longer, framed windows.
 
The one I did spy had a Diesel Boxer Badge on the back and a scoop. Not sure if that will be an actual option but that's the real one I saw on the street. Much more evolutionary from the current car than what that "concept" gives the impression of.
 
-mike
Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Re: 2010 Legacy concept to be at the NAIAS [paisan] by rsholland
Dec 17, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 17, 2008 6:37 am)

Keep in mind this is a concept. The production model will be toned down a tad. Actually, I see some G37 styling cues here, at least with the headlights. A diesel will not be offered here for the 2010 MY.
 
Bob
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Re: 2010 Legacy concept to be at the NAIAS [rsholland] by paisan
Dec 17, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Dec 17, 2008 6:53 am)

Could easily have been a 2.5t under the hood with the boxer diesel badge on it.
 
-mike
Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Re: 2010 Legacy concept to be at the NAIAS [paisan] by rsholland
Dec 17, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 17, 2008 7:00 am)

The car you saw likely was a diesel. I'm sure they're testing them here.
 
Bob

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