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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2008 10:17 am) I doubt if the general public even knows Toyota has any ownership in Subaru (Fugi). So that should not be a problem. Perhaps more pertinent is the possibility that the more expensive new Legacy/Outback models will be DI. DI will probably be necessary to get even close to the coming required Corporate Average Fuel Economy ratings. The DI 2.5i would probably have about 200HP and the 2.0DI might be 180HP. (That 180HP rating was hinted at by Subaru several years ago in survey questions about future 1.8l-2.0l normally aspirated engined lightweight models.)
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Replying to: saedave (Dec 04, 2008 12:29 pm) You know Subaru, though. Just because the Legacy gets DI doesn't mean other cars will. The Legacy still did not get the 3.6l H6.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2008 12:44 pm) Consumer Reports said there will be a new Legacy next spring: Those models (probably longer and wider and possibly heavier) might need the 3.6l and DI 2.5 just to maintain performance at the present level. The present 3.0l in my Outback is a fine engine if city mpg does not matter....but CAFE will dictate new models' engine availability. Unless the 3.6l is much more efficient than the 3.0l, the 3.6 might disappear along with the Tribeca which is not selling well. Perhaps DI for the 3.6 could improve mpg.
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Replying to: saedave (Dec 05, 2008 6:45 am) Competitors have gone to bigger V6 engines so at this point Subaru would only be catching up.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2008 12:07 pm) Subaru provided a detailed description of the difficult assembly procedure in an article for SAE International some time ago. I can't remenber the detail. The other major improvement over the 3.0 liter was a new cylinder head design with better cooling for (I believe) the front cylinder to remove a hot spot: this is what permits operation on 87 octane fuel. The cylinder head should have no extra production cost, but the assembly could be costly. If Legacy gets the JATCO CVT, the 3.6 l would more closely equal the characteristics of the Nissan six with which the CVT was originally designed to work.
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Replying to: saedave (Dec 05, 2008 5:37 pm) The 3.6 will put out somewhere between 300-350hp  -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 07, 2008 6:48 pm) |
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http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2008/12/2010-detroit-auto-show-preview-201- 0-subaru-legacy-concept.html
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Replying to: rsholland (Dec 17, 2008 5:31 am) From what I could gather it's more G37 Sedan-like than that concept promotes. Slightly wider, slightly longer, framed windows. The one I did spy had a Diesel Boxer Badge on the back and a scoop. Not sure if that will be an actual option but that's the real one I saw on the street. Much more evolutionary from the current car than what that "concept" gives the impression of. -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor |
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 17, 2008 5:37 am) Bob
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