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by rblnr
Nov 17, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Anything going on w/Subie these days? And whatever happened to Subaru getting some hybrid tech. in exchange for battery tech from Fuji?
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2010 Legacy / Outback by samiam_68
Nov 17, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Has anyone seen spy pics or heard any details about the upcoming 2010 models?
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Re: [rblnr] by ateixeira
Nov 18, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: rblnr (Nov 17, 2008 6:43 am)

They're actually measuring interest in diesels.
 
I got a survey asking all sorts of questions (we just bought an 09 Forester Limited).
 
So I doubt a hybrid will appear any time soon.
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Re: diesels by volkov
Nov 18, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 18, 2008 1:30 pm)

They need to clean them up first, but that development step would be much cheaper and faster than a hybrid drive.
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Re: diesels [volkov] by once_for_all
Nov 18, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Nov 18, 2008 2:20 pm)

I'm holding off until there is a diesel option...my '03 Forester is still strong after 90k, no issues whatsoever...no worries at all. So I'm patiently waiting.
 
John
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Re: diesels [once_for_all] by ateixeira
Dec 01, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: once_for_all (Nov 18, 2008 2:37 pm)

Around here, though, diesel is over $3 and regular gas is under $2.
 
Even the best diesels can't compensate for a 50% plus cost disadvantage. This is crazy.
 
Maybe diesel prices will die down once everyone gets all their heating oil.
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Re: diesels [ateixeira] by xwesx
Dec 01, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 01, 2008 1:41 pm)

I am under the impression that road diesel is so expensive because of the new ULSD requirement. Here in Fairbanks, diesel is $3.70 per gallon today (reg unleaded is $2.64) and #1 heating oil is under $2.50/gal (not sure of the exact number). I am pretty sure that road diesel is no longer refined locally so it has to be shipped in while the gasoline is refined about 15 miles away. If there are fewer refineries making the stuff, and it is more expensive/intensive to create, it is going to cost more.
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Re: diesels [once_for_all] by dino001
Dec 02, 2008 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: once_for_all (Nov 18, 2008 2:37 pm)

Why? At fuel costing now $1/gal more (or 50%) where are the savings? Let's see, you get:
1. Awkwardly short powerband
2. Increased engine noise
3. Clunky noise (have you every compared gas to diesel)
4. Increased and unfamiliar maintenance
 
Yeah makes perfect sense. Just as much as first hybrids did at 5 grand over sticker.
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I forgot to add by dino001
Dec 02, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Diesels cost more, too...
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diesel here by nippononly
Dec 02, 2008 (7:01 am)
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is $2.99, while regular unleaded is now $1.93. That's 50% more for the diesel? No thanks!
 
I can see why Subaru is weighing its options regarding making the diesel boxer 50-state compliant - they could bring it here just in time for gas prices to drop and no-one would buy it!
 
I wish they had gone ahead with the hybrid - they could have shared Toyota's HSD without much cost, presumably, since Toyota is part owner these days. I suppose it would have been difficult to develop that powertrain to include Subaru's boxer 2.0

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