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#21 of 21536
Good point... by rsholland
Nov 28, 2000 (6:41 pm)
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about Neon comments Juice. Yes, it is light years better than the car it replaced.


Bob
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bluesubie by bluesubie
Nov 28, 2000 (7:56 pm)
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Well, kinda going OT about the Neon but -
The Shadow had good reliability according to Consumer Reports. My first new car was a '95 Neon. Bad car (yeah, I know, first year) and really bad dealer experiences. I read a year or so ago that Automobile regretted naming it COY. They said any minute it felt like something would come apart on the dash. Exactly the way I felt.


Traded the Neon for my 97 OBS. Great car and much better dealer experience.
Dennis
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'85 Lebaron GTS Turbo... by paisan
Nov 28, 2000 (8:21 pm)
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I had an '85 Lebaron GTS Turbo 2.5l That thing was way better than the neon! Reliable, and screaming fast! It was the pre-cursor to the shadow I believe.


-mike
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by ateixeira
Nov 28, 2000 (8:44 pm)
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The Shadow (yet another K-car) had a shorter wheel base and some cost cutting measures.


My friend has owned two, mostly out of necessity, because they kept falling apart. His turbo was fast when it was running.


-juice
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by kostamojen
Nov 29, 2000 (7:07 am)
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I had a '89 Lebarron for 3 years... After fixing the shocks, it actually drove pretty well (only 100hp though). That car was jynzed though, things kept running into it: Rearended at an innersection, Sideswiped while driving down the street, hit in the parkinglot twice. I finally sold it this year for $700 w/ damage... (already spent $1500 on body repairs, car was worth about that much)


Im driving my moms old car now ('92 Achieva), after she bought her '00 Legacy GT Limited Sedan (white w/ spoiler). I miss the LeBarron even though the Achieva is a 3.3l V6, cause it handles like crap...


The best American small car in decades though is definatly the Focus. Cant wait to see the Focus-RS when it comes out...
#26 of 21536
by ateixeira
Nov 29, 2000 (1:59 pm)
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How 'bout some fatter no-sway bars for that UndaAchieva? That plus some sportier tires could help a bit.


At least you can look forward to that GT eventually. Hey - tell your mom to get the turbo or H6 model when those come out, then you keep the GT...


-juice
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by lucien2
Nov 29, 2000 (5:37 pm)
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pfft! juice made a funny, and a good one!


That whole platform blows. Actually, I think the newer one does too (Malibu etc). GM has yet to figure out they need to do something about torque steer if they want to keep building FWD cars. I never drove a FORD FWD model that pulled as badly as the half dozen or so Cavaliers, Luminas, etc. I have driven.
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by ateixeira
Nov 29, 2000 (5:47 pm)
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I've only driven an Intrigue (at Edmunds Live with Hutch). It was so lame, he didn't even bother to drive it. We both liked the V6 Camry much better.


In most cases we took turns driving each car.


-juice
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torque steer by aakerson
Nov 29, 2000 (6:15 pm)
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Drove a friend's Seville once, and made the mistake or flooring it (per his suggestion) to get a sense of its power. what I got a sense of was the most violent torque steer imaginable. Suddenly I was in a fight with the car on where the car was headed -- straight ahead or left. that wheel jerked to the left and took my unprepared hands with it. And this car costs $46-$50K!


Why no torque steer with Subarus -- longitudinal engine? Maybe they should turn the Cadillac over to the Subaru engineers. In fact, maybe GM should turn the WHOLE COMPANY over to Subaru.
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It's AWD. by ramon
Nov 29, 2000 (6:30 pm)
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See when u mesh the gas pedal, the initial weight transfer is shifter to the rear which if your car is FWD, the rears are just along for the ride and to support the rear seats. So the nose of your car will lift up. You get alot less traction when the driving wheels are lifter off the ground. That my friend invites torque steer to your car.
Our AWD cars will still get the weight transfer. But since (5spd) is 50/50 power bias so there's power at the rear anyways so the car just scoots. But I've lighted all 4 of my tires for a very brief second once. I accidentally dumped the clutch at 6000 rpm and it hit the rev limiter. Tires screeched for a blink of an eye and the car takes off. Not good for tranny. But loads fun.

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