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#4600 of 5120 Quadmeister................
Nov 20, 2003 (3:57 pm)
Thank you for the compliment, but it is really undeserving. I just happen to have a little knowledge, some experience, and a 2003 Dodge Dakota shop manual.
I think -- and I hope -- that you will find the newer Dakotas are well assembled and very reliable. Yes, there are Dakota "lemons," but they are available in every brand and model. We have a '99 Toyota Avalon that has been less than sterling. Actually, the majority of post-sale problems with any "lemon" is usually based on incompetent or otherwise poor dealer service. Studies have shown that people will tolerate defects and most malfunctions as long as the vehicle gets competently repaired.
On my 2003 Club Cab the overwhelming amount of interior noise comes from the tires via the rear vents in the rear cab bulkhead that I mentioned. I drove other Dakotas (mostly SLTs) with passenger-car tires that did not exhibit the noise. Mine has the optional on/off road tires with a more aggressive tread design.
Wind noise is almost non-existent. I get some from around the "A" pillars, but it is very minor. Overall most of the newer Dakotas I've been in have been very quiet...especially for a truck. Like you I have found most F150s to be very quiet, too, with the exception of engine noise. My Dakata has very little engine noise in comparison. I hear the exhaust note, of course, but actual noise from the engine itself is very low except at higher RPMs.
Good luck with the new machine. I hope you enjoy it!
#4601 of 5120 Closer to goodbye
Nov 20, 2003 (7:36 pm)
Well I ordered my new Chevy 2500HD today to replace my Quad. After all of the problems with all three Dakotas, I am jumping ship. I still hope to have it lemoned but have trade in numbers in writing if it comes to it. You guys have been the best bunch on Edmunds and I am really goning to miss all of you. Alot of us have been here since the beginning before the Quad came out for 2000 and we rode through the anxiety together and tracked the trains.
I will stop in and keep everyone updated from time to time.
God bless you all and good luck.
Nov 20, 2003 (9:06 pm)
Robert, hopefully your bad luck doesn't carry over to the Chevy. Good luck and keep us up to date on your new ride. I hope your new Chevy is as good as my Hemi Ram has been. I miss my old Dakota but my mangled leg doesn't miss the clutch. Rick
Nov 21, 2003 (1:45 am)
Thanks just the same.
Mine has the 265 on/off road tires also, but I don't find them noisy at all due to the fact that I normally run a much more aggressive tread pattern in the form of a quality mud tire or a true winter tire. Hopefully the current tires will be up to the task ahead so I don't have to replace them. My travels (work and rec) require me to travel on some less than perfect "roads". Time will tell (especially this Spring).
Anyway, my main concern with the noise was whether I was going to be fighting a losing battle trying to locate the source of the obvious wind noise if it was just a normal biproduct inherant to the shape and design of the truck body.
You have given me hope for a quieter ride. I'm sure I will enjoy it... Thanks again.
#4604 of 5120 Happy Thanksgiving to all
Nov 21, 2003 (6:00 am)
Want to take a moment to wish all of you and yours a happy and healthy Thanksgiving holiday. Judy and I along with Mozart, our Ragdoll kitten will be heading south in the Quad on Saturday following our Thanksgiving dinner with the family. Mozart's wire crate is sitting on the passenger side floor with the seat folded. It sits level and has 2 4X4 blocks to prevent rocking. It is secured to the seat base with a ratcheted web strap. It is carpeted and outfitted with a litter box and water and food bowls. This time we won't be "flat towing" Judy's Wrangler, and that will simplify things significantly. We are looking forward to being able to spend time in our new FL home. We plan to return in the Spring. Instead of "snowboarding" we will be "snowbirding." I will continue to track the site. I hope that Robert finally has some "Truck Luck" and continues to monitor and input comment on the site.
Nov 21, 2003 (6:39 am)
henne: Good luck with the Chevy! There is a club for it, but it's not nearly as active as the Dakota gang.
bookitty: Have a safe trip. And send us some of that FL sunshine occasionally!
Happy Thanksgiving to all Dakota owners!
#4606 of 5120 VIEW FROM GMC CREW CAB
Nov 22, 2003 (7:25 pm)
HAPPY TURKEY DAY TO ALL....
I WILL CONTINUE READING THESE HAUNTS AND COMMENTING WHEN I CAN !
GOOD DAY FROM SE TEXAS
#4607 of 5120 Good luck Henne
Nov 23, 2003 (7:25 pm)
Three strikes and Dodge is out. You are doing the right thing my friend. Its a tough decision I know, but in the long run, you have to weigh how much you like the truck now vs. how much its going to cost you down the road.
You gave Dodge three chances to get it right. You are much more patient and forgiving than I am Hope the Chevy performs well for you.
On another note, the valve covers for the 4.7 engine are going to yuk.....plastic! read on...........
Dana Corporation Supplying New Cylinder-Head Cover Module for DaimlerChrysler 4.7L V-8 Engine
Toledo, Ohio -- Apr 09, 2003 --
Dana Corporation (NYSE: DCN) announced today that it has begun supplying the cylinder-head, cam-cover module for DaimlerChrysler’s 4.7L V-8 engine for the Jeep® Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Dodge Dakota, and Dodge Ram vehicles.
The new thermoset plastic cylinder-head cover module was developed in just 12 months and replaces a magnesium component. Due to innovative manufacturing processes, Dana was able to reduce the overall cost of the module, while incrementally improving noise, vibration, and harshness, or NVH.
“Innovation within modules and systems provides a wonderful opportunity to reduce complexity, improve functionality, and create added value for our customers,” said Dana Chairman and CEO Joe Magliochetti. “The cylinder-head cover module for DaimlerChrysler demonstrates our commitment to satisfying customers’ needs with new and unique solutions.”
“Dana brought an extensive range of advanced capabilities and technologies to the development process, helping DaimlerChrysler meet its aggressive launch deadline while also increasing the value of the final solution,” said Mike Laisure, president of Dana’s Engine and Fluid Management Group.
The vinyl ester glass-reinforced thermoset plastic modules, which are unique to the left- and right-side cylinders, include the cover, gasket, and fasteners. These components are produced at Dana’s Composite Sealing Center in Paris, Tenn.
With this new sealing system, Dana developed a custom compound material for gaskets and grommets. Dana also provided prototyping for the gasket and isolator molds to ensure the design met all of the customer’s specifications. The system relies on a self-retaining, “press-in-place” gasket to improve function and quality consistency. This innovation eliminates the time-consuming and costly steps of precisely aligning and attaching the gasket to the valve cover with adhesive.
Dana engineers worked closely with DaimlerChrysler’s technical staff to provide 3-D solid models to fit tight, under-the-hood requirements. Dana also provided material development and component validation to ensure robust system performance. This collaborative effort eliminated the prototype step for the cover housing, which in turn reduced development time and cost by allowing the component to move directly from design to production.
A leader in the reduction of NVH, Dana provided extensive finite element analysis, or FEA, to ensure accurate NVH predictive analyses during the product development process. This capability allowed an incremental NVH improvement to be realized over the already favorable acoustical performance of the previous die-cast magnesium component.
Dana also supplies piston rings and rod bearings for DaimlerChrysler’s 4.7L V-8 engine.
#4608 of 5120 Re; "plastic" valve covers
Nov 24, 2003 (8:38 am)
I don't understand why you say "yuk." Why not use a material that is cheaper, reduces assembly time, does the job better, and reduces noise?
#4609 of 5120 Because cheaper in cost
Nov 24, 2003 (8:48 am)
usually, in Detroits world, translates to a cheaper product.
I speak from experience once leasing a 95 Taurus that had, when I turned it in, a pretty good leak on the rear valve cover. It too was plastic.
So too for a family friend with an old AMC eagle that had a crack in the high tech plastic valve cover and had to spend nearly 200 bucks to order it and replace it. So much for being cheaper.