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#2726 of 4362 2004 Dakota
Mar 26, 2004 (1:09 pm)
I finally ordered a 2004 Dakota after years of reading these posts. I really hope Dodge has corrected the ball joint problem. I also hope the 4-wheel disk brakes address the front rotor issue, and doesn't turn into a 4-wheel rotor issue!
My 2001 Ranger Supercab 4x4 has come to the end of it's lease, and has treated me reasonably well. The only issues I had were the check engine light twice, as well as an air bag light once. All of them involved censor changes under warranty. The dealer also replaced all 4 ball joints (with the a-arms) under warranty at about 50,000km, but there wasn't any looseness in the front end. With the 4.0 SOHC engine, manual transmission, 4.10 gears, I got about 16-17 USmpg in everyday mixed driving, with a high of 20mpg on one tank.
I have orders a 2004 Club Cab 4x4, 4.7L manual with 3.55 gears, loaded in Patriot Blue. Hopefully, the fuel econonmy won't be much different from what I was getting in my Ranger, as 80% of my driving is highway. Get to pick it up in 8 weeks!!!
#2727 of 4362 Brakes (front rotors)
Mar 27, 2004 (9:21 am)
I replaced the front brakes on my 2001 Q cab with the Raybestos Rotors and the Raybestos Ceramic pads, after 11000 miles the rotors where warped and the pads where in the process of seperating from the baking plate, replaced rotors with the Brembo Rotors and reused the OEM pads.so far have not had anymore brake problens,
#2728 of 4362 RE: 04 Differences
Mar 29, 2004 (1:21 pm)
The biggest difference that I know of is that the 2004 has the 3.7 engine. About 30+ more housepower. It has some pickup, once you get the revs up there.
#2729 of 4362 2004 Differences
Mar 30, 2004 (8:07 am)
What year were the rear discs added? Is that an '04 difference as well?
#2730 of 4362 Re: rear discs
Mar 30, 2004 (4:16 pm)
The 2003s had rear discs if the vehicle was rated over 6400 GVW. Also, many of the SXT models had them.
#2731 of 4362 Factory alarm problem
Apr 03, 2004 (5:28 pm)
My 2000 QC factory alarm is not working properly. When I press the lock button on the door or key fob the alarm dash light activates and the horn beeps, but the panic alarm does not work. If I roll the window down and set the alarm then open the door from the inside the alarm just resets and the flashing red light in the dash disappears, no horn or lighs flashing. I am unable to locate the alarm relay in the vehicle. Help.... Phil
#2732 of 4362 green coolant instead of Dexcool
Apr 17, 2004 (9:04 am)
Have a 2001 model. Took it to dealer for reg maintenance. They did a coolant flush and put green coolant in it. Several months later my heater core went out. I questioned why happened so soon. They said that that just happens these days. Plus, I had gone over mileage to get my next flush and to qualify for warranty should not have gone over mileage. Wanted $800 to fix it. Took it to private mechanic who says that they put the wrong coolant in it.....should have been orange coolant and that caused the heater core to go out. What do I do????? I paid to get it fixed at private mechanic because he had already torn the dash apart and all. Do I have any recourse with the dealer???? I have the receipt for the flush.
#2733 of 4362 Re:green coolant instead of Dexcool
Apr 17, 2004 (11:49 am)
I think your private mechanic is misinformed.
Chrysler specifies that Hybrid Organic Additive Technology (HOAT) coolant must be used. This is available as Mopar Antifreeze/Coolant MS-9769 and is a 100,000 mile coolant. This is what the factory used on your Dakota and it is green in color.
Typically the coolants that are orange are HOAT, however the DexCool and the Toyota equivalent are a different formula than MS-9769.
NOTE: Chrysler permits a 50/50 mix of Ethylene-Glycol and distilled water as long as a HOAT additive is used.
You don't say how many miles you have on this vehicle or how many miles you've gone since the flush. My first suspicion is that non-distilled tap water was used, the incorrect coolant, or a HOAT additive was not installed, or both.
#2734 of 4362 Re:green coolant instead of Dexcool [dustyk #2733]
Apr 21, 2004 (7:27 am)
I also have a 2001 4.7L Dak 38K and was planning on changing the coolant. I went to two different Dodge Part Depts; both asked if my coolant was green, which it is, and sold me their overpriced MS-7170 (3 Year Formula.)
The 2001 Service Manual states:
"Note: Refer to the vehicle's coolant bottle cap to identify HOAT or Non-HOAT coolant. Non-HOAT coolant is green in color."
My coolant cap does not indicate the coolant type. Do I use MS-7170 or MS-9769?
#2735 of 4362 Waynesan2.................
Apr 23, 2004 (3:05 pm)
My 2003 Dodge service manual says the same thing. The paragraph following, however, confounds the issue:
"The use of aluminum cylinder blocks, cylinder heads and water pumps requires special corrosion protection. Only Mopar(R) Antifreeze/Coolant, 5 year/100,000 Mile Formula (glygol base coolant with corrosion inhibitors called HOAT, for Hybrid Organic Additive Technology) is recommended. This coolant offers best engine cooling without corrosion when mixed with 50% distilled water to obtain a freeze point of -37C (-35F)."
This is prefaced by the following caution statement:
"CAUTION: Mopar (R) Antifreeze/Coolant, 5 year/100,000 Mile Formula (MS-9769) may not be mixed with any other type of antifreeze. Mixing of coolants other than the specified (non-HOAT or other HOAT), may result in engine damage that may not be covered under the new vehicle warranty, and decreased corrosion protection."
I believe that the factory coolant was HOAT, even though it is green. The MS-9769 coolant is a very specific material, different from other HOATs because its glygol-based.
I think you need the MS-9769 version.